Protecting Stainless Bracelets
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Protecting Stainless Bracelets
OK, here's a topic which divides opinion- protecting bracelets from damage. In particular the clasp which attracts the brunt of desk diving damage.
There seem to be two camps- those who feel that after spending their hard-earned on a new watch want to maintain it as good looking as they can and don't relish the prospect of damaging marks, dings and scratches. In another camp, in a distant galaxy far far away, are those who really don't care, see damage as a patina that demonstrates that the watch is being used as intended and ridicule those who feel anguish when the watch takes a scar.
This post isn't about that. My take on it is that if there was a way to prevent damage in the first place without looking out-of-place, let's investigate that.
Here's what I'm trying. In the vehicle and boat worlds there are products intended to protect paintwork from damage by scratches and stonechips applied as a layer over the paint. One such is 3M Ventureshield- a flexible urethane film only 210 microns thick which can be easily applied, trimmed and, if needed, removed.
I'm trying it out first on my Seamaster- the bracelet clasp is a relatively flat surface (not stepped like a Rolex or CW Trident mk3 clasps)- and as a new watch the bracelet is pristine to start with. I'm also trying it on my Trident C60 mk2 but I've needed to rebrush the surface to a good standard to start. I first cut the film to size using a craft/paper guillotine to ensure parallel sides and roughly the right length. The film is applied with water like a transfer so position can be adjusted (within reason) before 'squeegy-ing' out the excess water. The ends are then trimmed with a scalpel.
The result is a virtually invisible film. You can feel it for sure- it is a relatively soft plastic, and it changes the relflectivity of the original brushed surface (more of a sheen than the brushed steel) but otherwise it's not easy to spot- it certainly isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it. It is water resistant, non-yellowing and can be removed without leaving a residue.
In the month or so I've been testing it, all seems good. The film 'self-heals' if dinged and seems so far to shrug off usual desk-diving scratches. So far, so good.
There seem to be two camps- those who feel that after spending their hard-earned on a new watch want to maintain it as good looking as they can and don't relish the prospect of damaging marks, dings and scratches. In another camp, in a distant galaxy far far away, are those who really don't care, see damage as a patina that demonstrates that the watch is being used as intended and ridicule those who feel anguish when the watch takes a scar.
This post isn't about that. My take on it is that if there was a way to prevent damage in the first place without looking out-of-place, let's investigate that.
Here's what I'm trying. In the vehicle and boat worlds there are products intended to protect paintwork from damage by scratches and stonechips applied as a layer over the paint. One such is 3M Ventureshield- a flexible urethane film only 210 microns thick which can be easily applied, trimmed and, if needed, removed.
I'm trying it out first on my Seamaster- the bracelet clasp is a relatively flat surface (not stepped like a Rolex or CW Trident mk3 clasps)- and as a new watch the bracelet is pristine to start with. I'm also trying it on my Trident C60 mk2 but I've needed to rebrush the surface to a good standard to start. I first cut the film to size using a craft/paper guillotine to ensure parallel sides and roughly the right length. The film is applied with water like a transfer so position can be adjusted (within reason) before 'squeegy-ing' out the excess water. The ends are then trimmed with a scalpel.
The result is a virtually invisible film. You can feel it for sure- it is a relatively soft plastic, and it changes the relflectivity of the original brushed surface (more of a sheen than the brushed steel) but otherwise it's not easy to spot- it certainly isn't noticeable unless you're looking for it. It is water resistant, non-yellowing and can be removed without leaving a residue.
In the month or so I've been testing it, all seems good. The film 'self-heals' if dinged and seems so far to shrug off usual desk-diving scratches. So far, so good.
Rich
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Brilliant idea Rich, which clearly works. Top notch.
About as novel as your caseback shim to counter the lack of suitable adjustment in bracelet links.
Guy
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About as novel as your caseback shim to counter the lack of suitable adjustment in bracelet links.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Very cool, like Paint Protection Film the pro detailers apply to cars. Might give it a go myself...
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Great idea, we put glass protective covers on our phone screens too. It seems such a simple but brilliant solution.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
That looks great. How long do you think it might last before you have to replace it?
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Good question! I don't know!
When applied to cars it's reckoned to last for years. I think the weak point will be the edges of the film with constant 'scuffing' will start to lift the edges over time. Once there's a little gap then the void will be filled with dust and quickly look unsightly.
Reapplying wouldn't be too much of a hardship though- cut to size, apply and trim. Twenty minutes? Also for a tenner or so you get enough film for dozens!
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Great post! I have seen similar pre cut products for sale on Ebay, but at ridiculous prices. As much as I love my Datejust, I have pretty much quit wearing it to work because of the scratches accumulating on the clasp. I have had success polishing them out with a Dremmel and .25 micron diamond paste, but it is time consuming. Now that I have the name of a product I will certainly be giving this a try. Thanks again!
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Does seem like a good idea, particularly if the clasp has PCLs
Off to google the stuff you used.
I have seen someone else use a phone protective screen, but it seemed a bit thick. Another suggestion was clear nail varnish.
I do though think there are three camps - as with many things, being in the centre, is another option. I.e. do care and manage to wear a watch, without the bracelet or case looking like It has been used for banging in nails.
Neil
Off to google the stuff you used.
I have seen someone else use a phone protective screen, but it seemed a bit thick. Another suggestion was clear nail varnish.
I do though think there are three camps - as with many things, being in the centre, is another option. I.e. do care and manage to wear a watch, without the bracelet or case looking like It has been used for banging in nails.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
There was an interesting thread here a few years ago about skin allergy or reaction to the backplate of a watch (the thread was called ‘Strange!?!? Help Needed’ since i’m struggling to figure out how to link to it directly!).
I wondered if this film might help? I guess it might be hard to get an acceptable result - especially on deeply etched back plates. But if an allergy was stopping me from wearing a watch I love I think i’d give it a try.
I wondered if this film might help? I guess it might be hard to get an acceptable result - especially on deeply etched back plates. But if an allergy was stopping me from wearing a watch I love I think i’d give it a try.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
I think the idea has some merit but I'll be honest, I can't think of doing anything worse to a watch.
Do you take the film off once it's got scratches on it and replace it? If so then it would be relentless. If not, then you're as well just leaving it without and enjoying the watch as intended. I see people looking at their phones through scratched up screen protectors and it's madness. They get sold on phone with an "amazing screen" and then cover it up with plastic and watch films through scratches and bubbles.
I don't see the point in preserving something as new for the next guy when I could be enjoying it for myself instead.
Do you take the film off once it's got scratches on it and replace it? If so then it would be relentless. If not, then you're as well just leaving it without and enjoying the watch as intended. I see people looking at their phones through scratched up screen protectors and it's madness. They get sold on phone with an "amazing screen" and then cover it up with plastic and watch films through scratches and bubbles.
I don't see the point in preserving something as new for the next guy when I could be enjoying it for myself instead.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
If you put a screen protector on a phone, it will often prevent you smashing the screen if you drop it (the screen protector smashes instead) then you fit another. The screen protectors are very thin glass and you don't generally notice them and they don't interfere with the enjoyment of the phone. Yes if they get scratched then you replace them. So you prevent damage and of course the by-product is that if you sell, you have a better resale value.Bungle-ator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:21 pm I think the idea has some merit but I'll be honest, I can't think of doing anything worse to a watch.
Do you take the film off once it's got scratches on it and replace it? If so then it would be relentless. If not, then you're as well just leaving it without and enjoying the watch as intended. I see people looking at their phones through scratched up screen protectors and it's madness. They get sold on phone with an "amazing screen" and then cover it up with plastic and watch films through scratches and bubbles.
I don't see the point in preserving something as new for the next guy when I could be enjoying it for myself instead.
The same can apply for the example of the bracelet clasp. You hardly really notice the film has been fitted, you get to enjoy wearing your watch with an undamaged clasp and if and when you sell, the residual is a bit better, win win.
I don't really see a downside.
Patrick
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
I once seen a phone drop and the screen broke whilst the glass protector stayed intactThegreyman wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:35 pmIf you put a screen protector on a phone, it will often prevent you smashing the screen if you drop it (the screen protector smashes instead) then you fit another. The screen protectors are very thin glass and you don't generally notice them and they don't interfere with the enjoyment of the phone. Yes if they get scratched then you replace them. So you prevent damage and of course the by-product is that if you sell, you have a better resale value.Bungle-ator wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:21 pm I think the idea has some merit but I'll be honest, I can't think of doing anything worse to a watch.
Do you take the film off once it's got scratches on it and replace it? If so then it would be relentless. If not, then you're as well just leaving it without and enjoying the watch as intended. I see people looking at their phones through scratched up screen protectors and it's madness. They get sold on phone with an "amazing screen" and then cover it up with plastic and watch films through scratches and bubbles.
I don't see the point in preserving something as new for the next guy when I could be enjoying it for myself instead.
The same can apply for the example of the bracelet clasp. You hardly really notice the film has been fitted, you get to enjoy wearing your watch with an undamaged clasp and if and when you sell, the residual is a bit better, win win.
I don't really see a downside.
The downsides for me are that it's not the finish that was intended on the watch in the first place and I can see it's been applied. I'm not going to notice it on someone else's watch but I wouldn't notice scuffs/scratches on the clasp either. I would notice it on mine everyday and it would irritate the life out of me.
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
Fair enough, each to our own
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Re: Protecting Stainless Bracelets
I must admit, I am in the “Watches Are For Wearing” camp. The odd ding on a bezel or desk diving mark on the clasp is all part of life’s rich tapestry, and in the case of the latter they can be brushed out anyway.
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