C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Discuss Christopher Ward watches
NeWard
Junior
Junior
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 pm

C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by NeWard »

That the orange/red marker on the bezel is at the 16 seconds mark and not at the 15th? You can literally zoom in on the top of this page and check out the blue c60 elite 1000 on the header to see the orange dash stopped at the 16th second mark :lol: :lol: :lol:

Gyelex
Junior
Junior
Posts: 51
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:48 am

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Gyelex »

I don't own it, but I really wish you hadn't mentioned that because now it's bothering me 😂

User avatar
tikkathree
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 4170
Joined: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:21 am
CW-watches: 7
Location: East Anglia - arr 'aas right buh

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by tikkathree »

Yeah, i don't own the watch in question but my life just changed. I need to go back to fundamentals.

Fundamentally then, the word is "perspective"

Also the fact that the 45 minute tick on the insert seems to align with the 46th minute marker, nearly :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And another thing; the brand name Christopher Ward: danged big font filling the left side of the forum banner, isn't that just the worst thing since the Titanic went down?
C60 MKI COSC black, MKI black GMT,
C60 300 white,
C60 MKII Day Date LE, GMT White, LE SH21, ACAN, Bronze Ombre LE,
C60 MKIII Ombre COSC, Elite 1000 GMT,
C6 Kingfisher x3,
C60 K'fisher
C600 Tritech x 3,
C65 Anthropocene. Blue h/w,

User avatar
Bahnstormer_vRS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 23382
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:06 pm
CW-watches: 27
LE-two: 1
LE-three: 1
LE-foura: 1
LE-fourb: 1
LE-six: 1
LESeven: 1
Location: Hertfordshire, UK

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS »

The reasoning behind this is, I believe simple.

On the Admin Team's visit to CW Towers back during last November, I had the opportunity to ask Adrian Buchmann (CW's Head Designer) about it.

The reason why the timing markings stop at '16' on the likes of the C60 Trident Elite 1000, Elite GMT and C60 Apex is that with a '15' on the bezel, if the timing marking stopped at 15 this would be half way under the '15' and will give it the appearance of being lopsided.

By extending the timing marking to finish at 16 it stabilised this potential lopsidedness.

Photo for illustration;-

Image


Hope that makes sense.

Guy



Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk

C4&W7 BBMF| C5 BOB LE| C5 FLE| C7 MkI 47AD| C7 MkII Harrier| C8 MkI| C8 Reg MkII| C8 M2.04 LE| C8 PR
C9 FLE| C9 Me109 SPC LE| C11 Mak Navy| C20 FLE| C40 x2| C60 K'fisher| C60 FLE x2
C60 Apex| C60 Elite GMT| C65 S'hurst-Diver-GMT-AM GT| C70 HRDC| C1000

User avatar
Kansas City Milkman
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 1172
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:08 pm
CW-watches: 10
Location: Surrey

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Kansas City Milkman »

Nope, it doesn't bother me at all

redmonaco
Senior Expert
Senior Expert
Posts: 262
Joined: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:27 am

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by redmonaco »

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:11 am
The reasoning behind this is, I believe simple.

On the Admin Team's visit to CW Towers back during last November, I had the opportunity to ask Adrian Buchmann (CW's Head Designer) about it.

The reason why the timing markings stop at '16' on the likes of the C60 Trident Elite 1000, Elite GMT and C60 Apex is that with a '15' on the bezel, if the timing marking stopped at 15 this would be half way under the '15' and will give it the appearance of being lopsided.

By extending the timing marking to finish at 16 it stabilised this potential lopsidedness.

Photo for illustration;-

Image


Hope that makes sense.

Guy



Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
Nope. I think it looks more balance like this

Image

User avatar
Bahnstormer_vRS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 23382
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:06 pm
CW-watches: 27
LE-two: 1
LE-three: 1
LE-foura: 1
LE-fourb: 1
LE-six: 1
LESeven: 1
Location: Hertfordshire, UK

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS »


redmonaco wrote:
Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:11 am
.
.
.
By extending the timing marking to finish at 16 it stabilised this potential lopsidedness.

Photo for illustration;-

Image

Hope that makes sense.

Guy



Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
Nope. I think it looks more balance like this

Image

We'll have to agree to differ.

Guy

Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk

C4&W7 BBMF| C5 BOB LE| C5 FLE| C7 MkI 47AD| C7 MkII Harrier| C8 MkI| C8 Reg MkII| C8 M2.04 LE| C8 PR
C9 FLE| C9 Me109 SPC LE| C11 Mak Navy| C20 FLE| C40 x2| C60 K'fisher| C60 FLE x2
C60 Apex| C60 Elite GMT| C65 S'hurst-Diver-GMT-AM GT| C70 HRDC| C1000

jtc
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 3349
Joined: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:50 pm
CW-watches: 1
Location: Hampshire, UK

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by jtc »

Have to agree, stopping at 15 looks better. Just one of those many CW design decisions that's like marmite!
Jon

Sales Corner Feedback

CW | Tudor | Tag Heuer | Omega | Halios | Oris | Seiko | Casio

User avatar
rkovars
Senior
Senior
Posts: 105
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2020 7:56 pm
CW-watches: 2

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by rkovars »

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:26 am

We'll have to agree to differ.

Guy

Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
I agree with you Guy. This is a form over function thing. It is there so you can see 15 minutes at a glance on a dive watch not 16. Doesn't make a lot of sense. Your example shows it isn't unbalanced at all. Function lost on this choice.
Current CW = C65 Trident Vintage GMT, C65 Dartmouth


2 More CW's on the short list!

NeWard
Junior
Junior
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by NeWard »

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:11 am
The reasoning behind this is, I believe simple.

On the Admin Team's visit to CW Towers back during last November, I had the opportunity to ask Adrian Buchmann (CW's Head Designer) about it.

The reason why the timing markings stop at '16' on the likes of the C60 Trident Elite 1000, Elite GMT and C60 Apex is that with a '15' on the bezel, if the timing marking stopped at 15 this would be half way under the '15' and will give it the appearance of being lopsided.

By extending the timing marking to finish at 16 it stabilised this potential lopsidedness.

Photo for illustration;-

Image


Hope that makes sense.

Guy



Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
I wonder why they didn't do that to the c60 sapphire where the marking stopped at 15? :lol: :lol:

NeWard
Junior
Junior
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by NeWard »

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:26 am
redmonaco wrote:
Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:11 am
.
.
.
By extending the timing marking to finish at 16 it stabilised this potential lopsidedness.

Photo for illustration;-

Image

Hope that makes sense.

Guy



Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
Nope. I think it looks more balance like this

Image

We'll have to agree to differ.

Guy

Sent from my Xperia 5 using Tapatalk
Felt like CW couldn't make up their own mind :lol: :lol:

Screen Shot 2020-07-29 at 5.51.15 PM.png
Last edited by Bahnstormer_vRS on Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Attached photo 'Placed in Line'

User avatar
Bahnstormer_vRS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 23382
Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:06 pm
CW-watches: 27
LE-two: 1
LE-three: 1
LE-foura: 1
LE-fourb: 1
LE-six: 1
LESeven: 1
Location: Hertfordshire, UK

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS »

Its simple.

The bezel on the C60 Sapphire doesn't have a '15' on it, only '20'.

Hence that can stop the blue line where the 15 would be.

Guy
C4&W7 BBMF| C5 BOB LE| C5 FLE| C7 MkI 47AD| C7 MkII Harrier| C8 MkI| C8 Reg MkII| C8 M2.04 LE| C8 PR
C9 FLE| C9 Me109 SPC LE| C11 Mak Navy| C20 FLE| C40 x2| C60 K'fisher| C60 FLE x2
C60 Apex| C60 Elite GMT| C65 S'hurst-Diver-GMT-AM GT| C70 HRDC| C1000

NeWard
Junior
Junior
Posts: 49
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by NeWard »

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:56 pm
Its simple.

The bezel on the C60 Sapphire doesn't have a '15' on it, only '20'.

Hence that can stop the blue line where the 15 would be.

Guy
Lol its driving me nuts since my OCD kicks in when im about to buy the c60 elite :oops: :oops: :oops:

JAFO
Senior
Senior
Posts: 94
Joined: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:59 pm

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by JAFO »

It wouldn't bother me. I can see it both ways. On the watch in the banner header, the orange line extends fully under the numeral. On the watch posted within the thread it stops precisely at the 15, which mean it doesn't extend fully under the numeral. It's just a design choice. No right or wrong I think.

User avatar
Amor Vincit Omnia
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 22134
Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:34 pm
CW-watches: 4
Location: Norfolk, UK

Re: C60 Elite 1000 / GMT owners, does it bother you that....

Post by Amor Vincit Omnia »

In fact, if you look at the Sapphire, the colour insert on the bezel seems to be contained in a little trench which, if I am not mistaken, ends at approximately 14.75 minutes. :escape:

:D
Steve
The half minute which we daily devote to the winding-up of our watches is an exertion of labour almost insensible; yet, by the aid of a few wheels, its effect is spread over the whole twenty-four hours.
Charles Babbage


@Avo238

Post Reply