FLE #8 - major changes

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Mikkei4 » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:45 pm

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Kip, just to be clear, when you say "our window has closed [for ceramic] due to minimum requirements", do you mean that we now cannot get ceramic at all (I.e. regardless of number of buyers), or that we could still get it if we got 25+ buyers on-board?

If the latter, I do think a final run-off vote would be a good idea. Yes, I agree the last poll was clear in that you "vote for every one you would buy", but it would be interesting to see the results of a new poll along the lines of "can you live with this or would you prefer no FLE at all". Might focus minds a bit more.

I'll be the first to admit, from memory I only voted for one option in the last poll, but at a push (and if the choice is no FLE) would also consider one of the others.

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I'm confused......So if the number of people willing buy a version of this was over the minimum required because there was a compromise on how much red on the second hand would the 2tone ceramic still be possible? It was after all 1 of the options given BY CW on the very first "Would you buy 1 of these..." FLE thread not something that was suggested TO CW. Or is the 2tone ceramic bezel now a timing / production / cost issue no matter how many agree to buy it?

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Rice & Gravy » Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:46 pm

This with a red ceramic bezel to match the GMT hand in 40mm would be pretty nice I think. Maybe add FLE somewhere in the text?
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Andy-Smith » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:30 pm

Yes I would buy two.

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by lisnalee » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:12 pm

Even Rolex struggle with red coloured ceramic on their GMT, looks kinda pinkish in certain light.

Something like this all grey coloured ceramic (which was a previous alternative at the very start of the process) is closer to what's possibly available to us.

Just not sure it's distinctive enough for a FLE though.
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Andy-Smith » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:22 pm

The white face red bezel models in the past have been slow sellers but very sought after on the secondhand market - always sell quickly at good prices. They are of course my favourite.

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by lisnalee » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:44 pm

I do like the look of white dials and want to add one to my meagre collection at some point. Not too fussed on the burgandy hue of the ceramic bezels though.
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by albionphoto » Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:42 pm

If it goes to 40mm then I'm out. I would prefer a white dial, single colour bezel. But I can see which way the wind is blowing regarding size so I will declare myself out too.
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by FlyboyChris » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:41 am

Such a shame that this seems to have fallen through. As others have said, if it goes to an aluminium bezel then I would be out as the ceramic two-tone was a real plus point for me.

As has been said earlier, when the price was nearly £1000 then it needs to be pretty much perfect.

Regardless, thank to Kip and all involved in the process so far, I think herding the proverbial cats would have been easier!

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by borderman » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:16 am

albionphoto wrote:
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If it goes to 40mm then I'm out. I would prefer a white dial, single colour bezel. But I can see which way the wind is blowing regarding size so I will declare myself out too.
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Kip » Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:51 am

Based on the responses here and the status of commitment going into this thread. I can see no reason to pursue this particular FLE design.

While I do understand the reasons that some would think that the aluminum bezel is a step backwards despite the price reduction, the ultimate goal was to get a good looking watch. I personally would have preferred the ceramic bezel, but the aluminum would still be a great look. As to hesitancy about the aluminum being to fragile and easy to mark up, It has been used for years in the Tridents and is still used on the C65's. Perhaps it is the fear of unavailable replacements....

Regardless, unless I can be convinced otherwise this project, based on this design, is done.

That said...

If you would like to start over, that is okay. You can use any current models or one of the first 3 shown here.

I will be more than happy to guide us through the process.
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by TigerChris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:08 pm

Is there enough interest from people to start over? I’m sure that the option of using any of the current models (looking at you Military range) or the original PVD black or blue, if the process is done correctly, we can get something that 25 people will be happy with. Maybe we need to wipe the slate clean and start again with a model choice as per the last FLE? I’m thinking the size, plus COSC, of the military range would be popular?
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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by willttqs » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:16 pm

I would be keen on one of them

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Toph » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:29 pm

I’d be keen on number 1 or 2 posted in that thread by Kip.or any of the last 3 that now appear to be out.

Surely can’t be that hard to get 25 onboard?

How many brands give its fans an opportunity like this?

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by TigerChris » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:35 pm

Toph wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:29 pm

Surely can’t be that hard to get 25 onboard?

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Re: FLE #8 - major changes

Post by Toph » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:59 pm

:lol: nothing like WIS being over particular :D
TigerChris wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:35 pm
Toph wrote:
Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:29 pm

Surely can’t be that hard to get 25 onboard?

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