Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:33 pm

what-time-is-it wrote:Gut feeling is it has a date, just not visible! :silent:
I'm sure somebody will ask and clarify.

Technical info from Sellita http://www.sellita.ch/scripts/calibres/ ... 0-1_39.pdf
I posed an appropriate question, including this from Blackdog:-
Blackdog wrote:
golfjunky wrote:
Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:17 pm
surely it just means that a date wheel has not been used on the movement.... right?
does this mean it will have a ghost position when its pulled out into position one?
You could just use a dial with no opening, but the date wheel will still "click" when it changes every 24Hs and when it is manually advanced in position 1 of the crown.
Removing the date wheel is enough to completely avoid the "click". But, indeed, you will have a ghost crown position. This can be corrected if you also replace the setting lever jumper in the keyless mechanism with one from an ETA 2801 (or whatever the Sellita equivalent is)...

Most manufacturers just remove the date wheel. If CW also mods the keyless that would mean real attention to detail. Image
to Adrian who is the Chief Designer at CW and received this reply;-

"To answer your question we tend to change the set lever on the movement to remove the date position when there is no date.

Give a much more qualitative feeling."


I trust this clarifies the matter.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Rice & Gravy » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:39 pm

^ Thank you for that information.
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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by what-time-is-it » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:24 pm

Thanks for checking Guy, good to see they do a proper job - assuming of course 'we tend' means 'we do'. :D
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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Blackdog » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:03 pm

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:33 pm
I posed an appropriate question, including this from Blackdog:-

to Adrian who is the Chief Designer at CW and received this reply;-

"To answer your question we tend to change the set lever on the movement to remove the date position when there is no date.

Give a much more qualitative feeling."


I trust this clarifies the matter.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:04 pm

what-time-is-it wrote:Thanks for checking Guy, good to see they do a proper job - assuming of course 'we tend' means 'we do'. :D
Wondered if you would spot that Chris. :grin:

Acid test will be to physically check the watch.

Perhaps whomever goes to CW Towers on a showroom visit next, will be able to do so and report back.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by MiniMpi » Wed Sep 04, 2019 5:15 pm

Blackdog wrote:Soooooo.... The 12 o'clock branding is making it's comeback !
The other main reason for the move on the Military range for the Logo at 12 o'clock is that it simply wouldn't have fitted at 9 o'clock due to the size of the indices on the Dartmouth and on the other two watches because the numerals abd indices were both on the dial so again no room to properly fit the logo.
Worth pointing out that they are continuing with the logo at 9 o'clock on most models.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Devarika Woulf » Wed Sep 04, 2019 6:29 pm

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:33 pm
"To answer your question we tend to change the set lever on the movement to remove the date position when there is no date.

Give a much more qualitative feeling."


Wow. If true then these watches went from 10s to 11s with that! :clap:
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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by MSC » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:24 am

Quite nice, I rather like the design overall myself

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Skypilot617 » Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:31 pm

Can't understand some of the stylistic choices for the Cranwell. Why the colours? Surely RAF Blue would more appropriate. Why the light brown/yellow (OK it was on the Jaeger, but still?) for the quarter marks and hands - and no iconic Aviation double dots on the hack triangle. Most important of all, why a 'Bomber' watch with minutes rather than hours (and no hours on an inner circle)? Hardly any Pilot style or military watches go for this anachronistic look.

As an RAF Veteran I'd love one - but, sadly, I think this misses the target.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Patriot_1776 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:03 am

Really like the Dartmouth. Curious about the strap options, am I correct in assuming that one can switch out any 22mm strap?

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by fbd223 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:39 pm

My biggest question on the Dartmouth is with it only being 150 meters water resistance, wonder why it is

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by fbd223 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:45 pm

Nevermind I just saw that its a push-in crown... WTF. I know they are trying to make a retro throwback but it's 2019 I want a retro look with a modern spec like a fricking screw-down crown. Lost a sale here. I pass on a Polaris for the same reason, , in 2019 allllllllll sport watches should have a screw-down crown

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:46 am

Patriot_1776 wrote:Really like the Dartmouth. Curious about the strap options, am I correct in assuming that one can switch out any 22mm strap?
Yes.

You can switch out pretty much any 22mm strap, easily done with the CW straps having quick release spring bars.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by sproughton » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:06 am

fbd223 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:45 pm
Nevermind I just saw that its a push-in crown... WTF. I know they are trying to make a retro throwback but it's 2019 I want a retro look with a modern spec like a fricking screw-down crown. Lost a sale here. I pass on a Polaris for the same reason, , in 2019 allllllllll sport watches should have a screw-down crown
What's the issue with a push in crown or is it just your preference? It's 150m regardless of crown type so unsure of the issue.

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Re: Introducing the C65 Military Range - Dartmouth / Sandhurst / Cranwell

Post by watchaholic » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:36 am

Guess I prefer a screw down as well. Gives a level of percieved security, although not a deal breaker for me personally. This is not a watch I would ever take diving. Surely with a 150 rating it would be good for the occasional dunking. It is 2019, hopefully the technology relating to stem seals has improved. The problem I have found is because of the tight seals on the stem, they feel rather stiff when manually winding.
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