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Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by Fraserlees » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:00 pm

Recently acquired a CW that was purchased in 2018. At the time CW were out of instruction booklets, so just sent the usual letter stating that the booklet would follow.

It would appear that in this case, the booklet never did appear, so now I'm keen to see if I can reunite watch with instructions or a C of A.

I will approach the guy I bought it from to see if he can request it, but has anyone else been able to obtain instructions / C of A for a watch that was missing them when they purchased from a 3rd party?

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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by what-time-is-it » Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm

Personally I wouldn't buy from a third-party without the COA - you have no guarantee that they bought the watch themselves. I've sold a watch on ebay that I purchased direct from CW and the buyer has then sold on saying they bought it direct themselves!

Hopefully your seller is genuine, helpful and can/will assist.
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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by StrapMeister » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:20 pm

You may find one to download from here:
https://www.christopherward.co.uk/cserv ... -handbooks
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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by tikkathree » Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:05 am

what-time-is-it wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm
Personally I wouldn't buy from a third-party without the COA - you have no guarantee that they bought the watch themselves. I've sold a watch on ebay that I purchased direct from CW and the buyer has then sold on saying they bought it direct themselves!

Hopefully your seller is genuine, helpful and can/will assist.

Funny thing isn't it - and I simply ponder here - we'll buy a vintage watch on looks and condition without any expectation of full provenance and yet when it comes to a more modern product we can set such store by a much shorter provenance.
I agree completely that if a seller claims that he is the first owner, he should be able to verify that statement as being true.
What tiny percentage of all the watches listed on EBay come with any provenance and is there a formula which demonstrates the extent to which buyers require a provenance?
I've had a go with most CW models in the true spirit of online buying - get it, try it, keep it or flip it!

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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by nbg » Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:10 am

tikkathree wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:05 am
what-time-is-it wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm
Personally I wouldn't buy from a third-party without the COA - you have no guarantee that they bought the watch themselves. I've sold a watch on ebay that I purchased direct from CW and the buyer has then sold on saying they bought it direct themselves!

Hopefully your seller is genuine, helpful and can/will assist.

Funny thing isn't it - and I simply ponder here - we'll buy a vintage watch on looks and condition without any expectation of full provenance and yet when it comes to a more modern product we can set such store by a much shorter provenance.
I agree completely that if a seller claims that he is the first owner, he should be able to verify that statement as being true.
What tiny percentage of all the watches listed on EBay come with any provenance and is there a formula which demonstrates the extent to which buyers require a provenance?
I find it even more amusing that people generally assume that the mystical “full box and papers” in some way authenticates that a watch is genuine.

I do though accept there are other reasons why someone would look to only buy (other than vintage) with full B&P.

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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by Laird » Wed Jun 05, 2019 1:11 pm

Fraserlees wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:00 pm
Recently acquired a CW that was purchased in 2018. At the time CW were out of instruction booklets, so just sent the usual letter stating that the booklet would follow.

It would appear that in this case, the booklet never did appear, so now I'm keen to see if I can reunite watch with instructions or a C of A.

I will approach the guy I bought it from to see if he can request it, but has anyone else been able to obtain instructions / C of A for a watch that was missing them when they purchased from a 3rd party?

Had the same issue last year with a C70 - CWL CS went as far as they could to link the watch to the original owner so they could issue a replacement CoA - but couldnt find the original purchasor, so wouldnt offer a CoA ...

You'd think the records would be keyed to the Serial # ....
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Re: Replacement Instructions / C of A

Post by Thegreyman » Wed Jun 05, 2019 7:36 pm

nbg wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:10 am
tikkathree wrote:
Wed Jun 05, 2019 8:05 am
what-time-is-it wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:37 pm
Personally I wouldn't buy from a third-party without the COA - you have no guarantee that they bought the watch themselves. I've sold a watch on ebay that I purchased direct from CW and the buyer has then sold on saying they bought it direct themselves!

Hopefully your seller is genuine, helpful and can/will assist.

Funny thing isn't it - and I simply ponder here - we'll buy a vintage watch on looks and condition without any expectation of full provenance and yet when it comes to a more modern product we can set such store by a much shorter provenance.
I agree completely that if a seller claims that he is the first owner, he should be able to verify that statement as being true.
What tiny percentage of all the watches listed on EBay come with any provenance and is there a formula which demonstrates the extent to which buyers require a provenance?
I find it even more amusing that people generally assume that the mystical “full box and papers” in some way authenticates that a watch is genuine.

I do though accept there are other reasons why someone would look to only buy (other than vintage) with full B&P.

Neil
It’s all about the provenance I guess Neil. I take your point that B & P in themselves don’t necessarily confirm that, say a used Rolex, is genuine but assuming the watch is genuine, they are definitely better to have than not and do enhance the value both in monetary and satisfaction terms of owning.

If you were buying said used Rolex then an inspection by a Rolex AD/expert is ultimately perhaps more valuable in terms of verifying authenticity.
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