C60 Homage

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by 0uatiOW » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:46 pm

In my experience, something that seems to good to be true usually isn’t. Not saying Heimdallr watches are too good to be true - none of us knows. China’s non-existent counterfeit laws allows all sorts of things to be sold under someone else’s name, so without seeing one, it’s not even certain that they’ll contain a Seiko movement.

I’ll wait to see what Gary thinks when he gets his, if or when it comes. He’s a good judge of what’s what.
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Caller » Sat Jan 26, 2019 4:53 pm

nbg wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:37 pm
Homage = Respect shown to someone or something you admire.

Ergo basically copying the C60 visual looks is, by my reckoning, not showing respect to the brand that originally designed it, therefore not an homage. :thumbdown:

The C60 on the other hand takes design clues and inspiration from one or more iconic dive watches of the past and shows respect by designing and producing a coherent good looking design of its own. :thumbup:
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Ttf23 » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:08 pm

I suppose it isn’t actually that much cheaper than another Chinese produced watch powered by a Seiko auto movement that is a homage (but rather more liked on these forums).

Of course I’m talking about the Dan Henry 1970. To my mind the DH is well worth the extra USD70 as at least there is some vision, thought and originality behind the design rather than just being a blatant copy of an existing design in production, with a change in logo.

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by nordwulf » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:10 pm

Steinhart, Invicta, Parnis, Heimdallr, Squale, Alpha all produce knock-offs that are cheaper than the original. Using the word homage for these replicas is just a fancy way to make the buyer feel good so they think they are not buying a counterfeit watch.

Even though Ward uses obvious design elements from other watches, at least they don't copy entire watches like the previously mentioned companies. So yes, this Sharkey watch is just a cheap Chinese knock-off.

But if wearing one of these makes you happy, go ahead but don't expect any respect from the CW community. When you time it right, you can get the real deal for $600 or less.
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by TigerChris » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:45 pm

Back on topic, like others, I shall wait for Gary’s assessment when he’s received his

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by hughesyn » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:53 pm

In a way, it's kudos to CW that they are being copied.

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Bahnstormer_vRS » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:54 pm

Gentlemen,

A number of posts, made in the last half hour or so, have been deleted.

Will you please keep the discussion 'on topic' and refrain from inappropriate personal comments.

Any further transgression and this topic WILL be locked.

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by NotEnoughWrists » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:54 pm

So....are these Chinese shark watch dudes having a half price sale soon? might get me one of those orange blob things as a work beater :D
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Lawrence » Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:56 pm

Before things really go off the rails on this topic I think there's a real difference between knock offs which usually pretend to be the original (fakes) and homards :D which tend to be very close in nature or borrow a certain amount of design elements (I think some Steinhart watches are at the extreme end of the spectrum).

Having said all that I would not be surprised (which is very different from fact) if a company sold off or licensed or even created a new brand to make use of older designs that have had all their R&D paid for and are now surplus to the original brand. Think about it, a new brand with a different movement servicing a lower but lucrative end of the market with a similar but slightly aged product.

I've ordered one of these Heimdallr watches and look forward to seeing it when it eventually arrives......in late February, maybe. I don't anticpate it being one of my favourites.
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Jasemh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:49 pm

NotEnoughWrists wrote:So....are these Chinese shark watch dudes having a half price sale soon? might get me one of those orange blob things as a work beater :D
Don’t blame you , at least you’ll get a decent movement instead of a cheap quartz job cw are churning out from china


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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Jasemh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:50 pm

hughesyn wrote:In a way, it's kudos to CW that they are being copied.

One step closer to being the Rolex of the internet.
Cw are a million miles away from being rolex - sorry pal

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by sproughton » Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:56 pm

Jasemh wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:50 pm
hughesyn wrote:In a way, it's kudos to CW that they are being copied.

One step closer to being the Rolex of the internet.
Cw are a million miles away from being rolex - sorry pal
Your sarcasm detector isn't particularly strong is it?

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by Jasemh » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:07 pm

sproughton wrote:
Jasemh wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:50 pm
hughesyn wrote:In a way, it's kudos to CW that they are being copied.

One step closer to being the Rolex of the internet.
Cw are a million miles away from being rolex - sorry pal
Your sarcasm detector isn't particularly strong is it?
No because these people on this forum are single minded and think cw is some form of god

All i said was the c60 homage was good value for money which it is , sapphire crystal, screwdown crown , good quality seiko movement less than $200

Its a good value watch regardless

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Re: C60 Homage

Post by hughesyn » Sat Jan 26, 2019 9:25 pm

Jasemh wrote:
Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:50 pm
hughesyn wrote:In a way, it's kudos to CW that they are being copied.

One step closer to being the Rolex of the internet.
Cw are a million miles away from being rolex - sorry pal
Give it a few years, CW will be equal to Rolex.
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Re: C60 Homage

Post by StrappedUp » Sat Jan 26, 2019 10:52 pm

^^^ for sure. jasemh, make sure you don't miss the boat and pick an auto up now whilst they're still affordable and readily available.

As hughesyn said, couple of years and CWs will be out of reach for us mere mortals!
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