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Automatic watches

Post by jay2001 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 12:37 am

I have a couple of CW watches but recently acquired the first automatic one. If I'm only wearing it once or twice a week am I better to let it run down and wind it when I wear it, or should I keep it wound all the time? Or I suppose the third option, it doesn't matter?

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Re: Automatic watches

Post by Paul Drawmer » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:19 am

:-D 3rd option really.
The only thing is that letting it run down, means having to reset each time you wear it. If you have a day/date watch it can be a bit of a faff.

A winder gets over the problem nicely, get a 4 hole one so you can expand the collection :D

On a more serious note; whilst there's nothing wrong in the rundown/wind up/reset cycle from the wear point of view; the times when user damage is most likely to occur is when you are fiddling with the crown. So either wear it more or get a winder.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by Diablo1st » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:55 am

I suggest to option no. 1 - wind it when you are going to wear it.

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Re: Automatic watches

Post by 0uatiOW » Mon Nov 26, 2018 1:03 pm

There have been several discussions here and on other sites about benefit of using an automatic winder. I use one, oringinally because I understood that automatic watches were designed to keep running, and frequent manual winding wasn’t desirable. There is an opposite view that running a watch when it’s not being used will wear components more than not running it, and modern winding stems are robust and up to the job of occasional winding.

At the end of the day, most of the discussions conclude that it’s a matter of preference- some like picking up a watch that’s already correct, others like the ritual of adjusting and winding.

Take a read of a few of these, and share your conclusions:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=47863
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=44589
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=41523
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by jay2001 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:54 pm

I think from a quick read I'll do what a few others have done. I'll get a winder and then never use it ;-)

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Re: Automatic watches

Post by Bounce » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:40 pm

I used to use a winder all the time until it broke, I have now been about 6 months without it & can't say it is really bothering me winding them & resetting them, so I may not replace it.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by Bungle-ator » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:12 pm

I've only got one automatic (Hamilton Khak Field Day Date) that I rarely wear and I generally give it a wind every couple of days. It's pointless though as when I do wear it I reset the time on it.

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Re: Automatic watches

Post by H0rati0 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:04 am

I think one has to be practical here. If you wear the watch regularly but not within its power reserve then a winder makes sense. Otherwise store it and reset it when you want to wear it. Eg I keep 3 watches on a winder because I wear them most days and don't want to reset. The rest live in a watch box in the safe. When I want to wear them I wind them a few turns (apart from manual winds) set them and if that extends they go on the winder.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by mvlow » Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:45 am

Here is a good article on the subject. Even after asking four experts they couldn't agree. Two said yes and two said no. I have never used a watch winder and probably never will barring substantial evidence of their need rather than just convenience.

I can see some argument for using the crown less when using a winder, therefore having less chance of damaging the crown or stem over time, but I already take precautions to protect the crown by only setting and winding my watches when they are off my wrist, so as not to put pressure on the stem. Even if I used a winder, I would probably unscrew or pull out the crown fairly regularly anyway, as I like to keep my automatic and manual wind watches set accurately at least weekly.

I think I can relate to this quote the best from the article.

"Let’s put it this way; if you don’t use your car you won’t let it run as well, do you? In the end, would you like to have a watch, or a car, that has been running for seven years or one that only ran for a year?“

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Re: Automatic watches

Post by Thegreyman » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:35 am

mvlow wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:45 am

"Let’s put it this way; if you don’t use your car you won’t let it run as well, do you? In the end, would you like to have a watch, or a car, that has been running for seven years or one that only ran for a year?“
There's probably no right answer to this question but the above is where I'm at. I don't anticipate ever buying a winder.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by gaf1958 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:34 pm

I had three quad winders in use when I worked, but they’d been idle for five years since retiring, so I gave them away when I moved.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by MiniMpi » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:17 pm

My lovely looking Duo winder is gathering a lot of dust currently and will continue to do so I feel.
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Re: Automatic watches

Post by H0rati0 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:31 am

I like the winder for watches I am regularly wearing, purely so I don't have to reset if I let one go over its power reserve, but otherwise I would not bother. I have a 4 holer as I see a moonphase coming at some point. For me the winder means not having to reset from dormant, but most of my watches I leave until I need them, then maybe they go on the winder of I am going to wear them as part of my daily shuffle.
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