I just received my second CW, a C63 Sealander GMT after really loving the new C60 Trident. They advertise the bracelet as having dual screw-in links. However, when I received the bracelet, I don’t see anything that resemble screws and there are no directional arrows indicating any other method of resizing. I’m no aficionado or expert, so perhaps I’m missing something.

I left a message for CW but figured perhaps someone here knows more?

The bracelet is supposed to have screws. Perhaps you could show us some photos so we can see what you might be missing.

I've just been to CW's website and C63 Sealander bracelets https://www.christopherward.com/watch-s ... S-MAW.html hoping to find a useful photo without success but it springs to mind that not all links will be removable, there will be maybe 4 to either side of the clasp.

Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.

My C63 bought second hand early this year has pins rather than screws also so perhaps the specification was altered at some point. No matter, I think the pin and collar system is very good.

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:20 pm Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.


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Those are pins and collars. You didn't say whether or not your C63 was 36 or 39 mm. I'm guessing it was 39. I am pretty sure at this point all of the 39s are pin and collar still. They haven't been transitioned.

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:14 pm

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:20 pm Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.


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Those are pins and collars. You didn't say whether or not your C63 was 36 or 39 mm. I'm guessing it was 39. I am pretty sure at this point all of the 39s are pin and collar still. They haven't been transitioned.

I said that I got the GMT, which I didn’t think came in 36? Yes, it’s 39mm.

Either way, the product page for what I purchased clearly states “dual screw links”

If these are pin and collar, should I expect directional arrows? There are none on the underside of the bracelet. I am wholly confused.

^^^^ The pins on CW bracelets* are bidirectional; they go in from either side.

Hence there is no arrow on the underside.

* Except the Mesh bracelets which use a directional pin.

Guy

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:59 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:14 pm

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:20 pm Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.


49C127D3-53E7-4C59-BB2A-16EDDC139572.jpeg

1B6B6EBD-AF71-4837-9E35-709C3ECC9C0A.jpeg

Those are pins and collars. You didn't say whether or not your C63 was 36 or 39 mm. I'm guessing it was 39. I am pretty sure at this point all of the 39s are pin and collar still. They haven't been transitioned.

I said that I got the GMT, which I didn’t think came in 36? Yes, it’s 39mm.

Either way, the product page for what I purchased clearly states “dual screw links”

If these are pin and collar, should I expect directional arrows? There are none on the underside of the bracelet. I am wholly confused.

Sorry I didn't see the GMT. The change over has been pretty recent so you might have got one during the transition.

No there is no direction. Usually split pins have a direction. The pins will have a small indent in the center which catches on a thicker ring in the collar. The collar will fit in the short end of the link.

Here is a picture of a CW pin and collar.



You can see that the pin can move in either direction. The trick is to get it seated in the center when you put it back. They sort of pop right in.

Hopefully CW will respond soon and tell you that they have sent the wrong bracelet and what they are going to do to rectify it.

In the meantime, I'd wait for that to happen before resizing the bracelet etc just in case something goes wrong and it gets scratched up. That is unless you are happy with the pin and collar one which has been good for many years.

I just received my new C63 Sealander GMT (39mm), and the bracelet links are still pin and collar. My C65 Dune bracelet has screw links. While the screw links are easier to remove/install, I really don't mind the pin and collar links on the C63.

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:14 pm

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:20 pm Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.

Those are pins and collars. You didn't say whether or not your C63 was 36 or 39 mm. I'm guessing it was 39. I am pretty sure at this point all of the 39s are pin and collar still. They haven't been transitioned.

I'm wearing my 39mm C63 and it has the double sided screws, had to get CW to alter the bracelet length for me, I'm happy to do pin and collar myself but not screws.

My recollection was that CW went from pin and collar to double ended screws for the C63 but then they reverted so a single sided screw pin due to the double ended ones being more difficult to remove. Please feel free anyone to correct me if that is wrong.

Close enough. They always wanted to do the single screw but their manufacturer couldn’t machine to the proper tolerances for the Aquitaine. They figured it out in time for the new Trident and made the switch then.

Thegreyman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 6:05 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:14 pm

syrome wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:20 pm Here’s photos of both sides of the bracelet.

Those are pins and collars. You didn't say whether or not your C63 was 36 or 39 mm. I'm guessing it was 39. I am pretty sure at this point all of the 39s are pin and collar still. They haven't been transitioned.

I'm wearing my 39mm C63 and it has the double sided screws, had to get CW to alter the bracelet length for me, I'm happy to do pin and collar myself but not screws.

My recollection was that CW went from pin and collar to double ended screws for the C63 but then they reverted so a single sided screw pin due to the double ended ones being more difficult to remove. Please feel free anyone to correct me if that is wrong.

I wrote that in October of last year and I think at the time there were both versions of bracelet making their way through CWs supply chain. My C63 Ukraine had pins. I think you are correct that they want to transition everything to single screws but how far along they are in the complete transition is anyone's guess.