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Re: The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed

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This is the official response I got from customer service:
“The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed. We are aware of this, and it is not a fault in terms of the watch construction.”
So yeah the red suppose to be a warning, meaning it was designed with purpose in mind and not for the looks.


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galwpsite wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:20 am This is the official response I got from customer service:
“The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed. We are aware of this, and it is not a fault in terms of the watch construction.”
So yeah the red suppose to be a warning, meaning it was designed with purpose in mind and not for the looks.


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Re: The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed

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Ignorance is bliss. I was unaware that the red tube was some kind of safety device. I thought it was simply a design embellishment matching the bezel.

I still like it though, shown or hidden.
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It is in reality more just a design embellishment!

Totally different to the crown on the old JLC Master Compressor series. That was functional and it was obvious if the crown was unscrewed…

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Re: The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed

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Apparently, for some unknown reason, CW has suddenly been receiving an inordinate amount of requests for returns over a non fault on the C65 Aquitaine's. This is about the the "Dry Marshal" red crown indicator.

There has been no recent mention of this on the forum other than this topic.

I would like to reiterate that that this is not a fault on the watch, but rather a feature to let you know if the crown is unscrewed.

As stated in Loupe 25, from the article introducing the C65 Aquitaine...
There are further fresh details too, including a new crown lock indicator called the ‘Dry Marshal’. Basically, Aquitaine’s crown reveals a band of bright red when it’s not fully screwed down – a simple but effective warning message. The original C65s lacked a screw-down crown, and although it was eventually added, the Dry Marshal adds further security.
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Re: The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed

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galwpsite wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:38 am It’s just bothers me because the purpose of the red is warn the wearer that the crown is not fully closed, it’s a cool feature that can be seen in many omegas for example. But if you see the red warning even the crown is fully closed, it just doesn’t make sense and that’s what bothers me.

Just to clarify, it’s not a huge deal, it just that one thing, that slightly annoy me.


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Re: The red crown warning can be seen slightly when the crown is closed

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So how do you know that the crown is fully closed? Is there a measurement / guidance for the amount of red that can be seen when it is fully closed? 1-2mm? Seems at bit wacko to me....
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If you can't screw it any tighter (finger tight!), it's closed. It's more of a guideline I think. Pirate's code, you know :D
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^^^ Go by feel. Use the red as a reminder to check it, if you feel the need. Remember, even without the threaded crowns the handwound C65 watch cases had 15 bar water resistance.
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nathanclarinet wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:41 pm So how do you know that the crown is fully closed? Is there a measurement / guidance for the amount of red that can be seen when it is fully closed? 1-2mm? Seems at bit wacko to me....
I'm sorry but is this your first experience with a mechanical watch? if you can't relax with this little design feature you might want to consider returning the watch?
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Funny that I would like it if it were meant as just a splash of decorative color, but now that I know it dysfunctionally serves a purpose, I just can't unsee it as such...

A very simple fix would be to paint the visible part of the tube green... Splash of color and peace of mind!
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I understand it both ways. If it's purpose is to let you know the crown is unscrewed, then red shouldn't be visible at all if it's fully screwed in. It still seems like a non-issue because it's barely visible screwed in, and much more prominent unscrewed. It seems like it serves its purpose just fine.

It seems like a silly thing to return a watch over.
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tikkathree wrote:
nathanclarinet wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:41 pm So how do you know that the crown is fully closed? Is there a measurement / guidance for the amount of red that can be seen when it is fully closed? 1-2mm? Seems at bit wacko to me....
I'm sorry but is this your first experience with a mechanical watch? if you can't relax with this little design feature you might want to consider returning the watch?
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ajax87 wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 9:02 pm I understand it both ways. If it's purpose is to let you know the crown is unscrewed, then red shouldn't be visible at all if it's fully screwed in. It still seems like a non-issue because it's barely visible screwed in, and much more prominent unscrewed. It seems like it serves its purpose just fine.

It seems like a silly thing to return a watch over.
This is where I land too. While it isn't a technical flaw I would say it was a design error akin to misaligned text on the dial. The crown should have been about a half a thread deeper or the tube half a thread shorter.

I could see someone who isn't too knowledgeable about watches reading CWs blurb and then getting the watch and think the crown isn't seating all the way. I would say this is probably the minority though. The majority are probably just the detail obsessed nerds like ourselves. :lol:
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rkovars wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:26 pm The majority are probably just the detail obsessed nerds like ourselves. :lol:
The fact that this thread is nearing 2 full pages for such a minor detail supports your statement :lol:
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