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golfjunky wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:05 am Kip, you cannot want honest unbiased reviews but At the same time not care if the reviewer is connected to the product.
Why can't I? I am interested in the review not the connection or lack of.

The purpose of a review is to inform the reader/viewer about the product. While a review allows one to express their opinions about a product, there is also the need for the unbiased and objective approach. An ideal review combines both, regardless of any connection.

When it comes to opinions, it is up to me to decide to who I shall align my views with and likely follow a reviewer who's opinion aligns with mine regarding products and specs.

For example... I do not care for Bremont watches. They do absolutely nothing for me. I appreciate they are fine well made timepieces and what the company is doing to further develop the industry in the UK. Moderator "Downer" likes Bremont watches, owns a couple and lives in the UK. If we were both given a Bremont watch to review, who is more likely to give a positive one?

If we both continued to review Bremont watches and you like Bremont, who are you more likely to follow? I am likely to be far more critical of the brand.

If a CW watch is to be reviewed who are you more likely to follow? Me who owns 140+ or someone who just can't stand the style. As a reader it is up to you to find a reviewer you like that aligns with your thinking and/or balance your thinking by reading both positive and negative reviews.
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Then unfortunately Kip you are just in an endless echo chamber
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In your opinion.
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Kip wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:14 am
Why can't I? I am interested in the review not the connection or lack of.
Even if the connection skews the review?
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I believe I have already answered that.
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:lol: then i refer to my previous post.
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I'm mostly in agreement with Kip on this one - a good review is objective fact, with a flavouring of opinion - when looking at actual owner reviews of products I'm always aware that 'hey, this is someone that's paid for this and is therefore, perhaps unconsciously, biased' - my favourite reviews are those that lay out the facts, then justify their opinion based on that.

Paid for reviews (or reviews of free/heavily discounted products) are similar - I'm actually more likely to pay attention to one of these if the reviewer clearly states their bias, but it's still the objective facts that I pay attention to. In the case of Tribus, there are definitely a few people sharing reviews/opinions where they're either really in love with the brand and shelling out a fortune with them or, they have some kind of association that they're not sharing - the thing that makes me most nervous in this case is the overall lack of reviews - if there are lots of reviews with a consistent message, then it's easier to have comfort, whereas with a very small number of reviews it's hard to say if there's a big bias skew in those that you see.
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golfjunky wrote:Image then i refer to my previous post.
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In terms of the objectivity of some reviews, I think it depends on the connection of the reviewer to the brand / designs.

I have seen very positive reviews from people who have hand in the initial design. To then say they really like that design is not really a ‘review’ - it’s just marking your own homework.

I’m the first to admit that I’ve been critical of Tribus. I work in marketing and am heavily involved in artwork origination and audio-visual content.

Tribus have ‘stolen’ other people’s work without permission or even bothering to give credit.

Most recently, Warner Bros, New Line Cinema, Sony Entertainment and Disney. This total lack of professional respect for other people’s work is something I find very difficult to accept.

However, as I mentioned in the review, I really wanted to give them a chance and spent good money on a watch. I was slightly nervous because of the various Companies House notices but felt I had the protection of my cars company.

As it turned out, any nervousness was unfounded and the customer service team were great. If only the design, manufacturing and quality control teams were this impressive. . .
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Molan wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:45 pm I’m the first to admit that I’ve been critical of Tribus. I work in marketing and am heavily involved in artwork origination and audio-visual content.

Tribus have ‘stolen’ other people’s work with permission or even bothering to give credit.
I hope your work doesn't extend to proof reading too, or that may be below the £200m ad budget management responsibility.

Also putting some form of punctuation mark around a word doesn't lessen any impact of the accusation.

It just appears like another attempt to throw some of the mud at them again which fell off the wall from the last throw.

On the topic of biased and unbiased reviews, it is obvious that each reviewer would approach with a different outlook which ultimately may impact the objectivity of a review. It is good to hear a range of opinions though as long as some decent level of objectivity is maintained.
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Every review is subjective, that’s the point. What does the reviewer think of the watch in question? There may be positive or negative bias behind it, which is fine if it’s based on experience only. If the reviewer receives compensation for the review then it should be disclosed. Thankfully in the world of serious watch reviews it normally is.

An objective review is a spec list. I can get that off the website.
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A1soknownas wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:30 pm
Molan wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:45 pm I’m the first to admit that I’ve been critical of Tribus. I work in marketing and am heavily involved in artwork origination and audio-visual content.

Tribus have ‘stolen’ other people’s work with permission or even bothering to give credit.
I hope your work doesn't extend to proof reading too, or that may be below the £200m ad budget management responsibility.

Also putting some form of punctuation mark around a word doesn't lessen any impact of the accusation.

It just appears like another attempt to throw some of the mud at them again which fell off the wall from the last throw.

On the topic of biased and unbiased reviews, it is obvious that each reviewer would approach with a different outlook which ultimately may impact the objectivity of a review. It is good to hear a range of opinions though as long as some decent level of objectivity is maintained.
I’m afraid it’s not an accusation. The use of other people’s work is quite clear from a series of email promotions recently run.

I have seen the views of one of those, very large, organisations that work was taken from. It’s not something that I’d publish here though.

My budget management has now increased to over £400M after a particularly successful year 😂

I don’t proof-read as part of my job, although I have been in charge of web usability teams and responsible for extensive sub-editing.

I also try not to take cheap shots to show how ‘clever’ I am 🤦‍♂️
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Molan wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:07 pm
A1soknownas wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 1:30 pm
Molan wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:45 pm I’m the first to admit that I’ve been critical of Tribus. I work in marketing and am heavily involved in artwork origination and audio-visual content.

Tribus have ‘stolen’ other people’s work with permission or even bothering to give credit.
I hope your work doesn't extend to proof reading too, or that may be below the £200m ad budget management responsibility.

Also putting some form of punctuation mark around a word doesn't lessen any impact of the accusation.

It just appears like another attempt to throw some of the mud at them again which fell off the wall from the last throw.

On the topic of biased and unbiased reviews, it is obvious that each reviewer would approach with a different outlook which ultimately may impact the objectivity of a review. It is good to hear a range of opinions though as long as some decent level of objectivity is maintained.
I’m afraid it’s not an accusation. The use of other people’s work is quite clear from a series of email promotions recently run.

I have seen the views of one of those, very large, organisations that work was taken from. It’s not something that I’d publish here though.

My budget management has now increased to over £400M after a particularly successful year 😂

I don’t proof-read as part of my job, although I have been in charge of web usability teams and responsible for extensive sub-editing.

I also try not to take cheap shots to show how ‘clever’ I am 🤦‍♂️
I'd leave it to the lawyers if there is any infringement.

I hope you don't think the use of a Freddy Krueger type image on the latest campaign is an example of stolen work and would be a problem for New Line Cinema.

After multiple negative posts about Tribus, it is like a personal campaign against them with a shot at every opportunity of what they have done wrong, could do better and what doesn't meet your standards because you are good at what you do, and they are not.
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Totally agree about lawyers. I understand briefings have taken place but I’d imagine just on a cease & desist basis.

Disney are probably the most litigious of the major studios.

As per the review here, I’ve always wished Chris well and hoped his new venture would succeed.

Unfortunately, the 70% off across the board and the administration notice doesn’t bode well.

They have made a series of basic mistakes, particularly in brand marketing and social platform usage / linking. Hopefully, they will have learnt from these and, if they survive the current financial issues, will be able to move forward positively.

Thanks for the kind words about being good at what I do. I was on the verge of retirement last year but was offered a freelance pan-European gig. We’ve just had our annual client review and I was really pleased to have been singled out for praise. They offered a lot of extra responsibility and a 40% pay rise to extend my contract.

I’m now in serious new watch shopping mode. Almost certainly not a Tribus though :(
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A1soknownas wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:34 pm
I hope you don't think the use of a Freddy Krueger type image on the latest campaign is an example of stolen work and would be a problem for New Line Cinema.

After multiple negative posts about Tribus, it is like a personal campaign against them with a shot at every opportunity of what they have done wrong, could do better and what doesn't meet your standards because you are good at what you do, and they are not.
And I hope that you are not being selective in order to deny there is an issue. It's not a personal campaign, it's a matter of record that unlicensed intellectual property was used to advertise a watch brand.

The images have now been removed from the Tribus Instagram account but, as we know, nothing is ever really deleted from the internet. It's shocking that they even thought this would be okay.


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