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I spotted this at a shop here on Cape Cod. This dealer always has a few watches in his display, and it’s the second Omega I’ve seen. He also had a cool Hamilton model called Thor with a case shaped like a triangle.


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Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
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Wis wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:58 pm Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
I think it is 24 hours but slaved to the central time. So not capable of being independently set.
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Wis wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:58 pm Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
I didn’t even notice that tiny arrow on the sub dial! The hand was moving counting off the seconds.
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rkovars wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:03 pm
Wis wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:58 pm Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
I think it is 24 hours but slaved to the central time. So not capable of being independently set.
I don’t know if that’s the case because the times look very different to me.
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jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:27 pm
rkovars wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:03 pm
Wis wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:58 pm Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
I think it is 24 hours but slaved to the central time. So not capable of being independently set.
I don’t know if that’s the case because the times look very different to me.
It is 0215 as opposed to 1415. The triangle is 24 hours the hand is running seconds. Chrono minutes are on a central hand along with Chrono seconds. The bottom subdial is hours and the top subdial is 60 minutes.
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rkovars wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:30 pm It is 0215 as opposed to 1415. The triangle is 24 hours the hand is running seconds. Chrono minutes are on a central hand along with Chrono seconds. The bottom subdial is hours and the top subdial is 60 minutes.
Oh my god! I’m too horrifically embarrassed to say how badly I misread that time. Like a kindergartener learning to tell time bad!! I’ll just leave it at that.
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jkbarnes wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:15 am
rkovars wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:30 pm It is 0215 as opposed to 1415. The triangle is 24 hours the hand is running seconds. Chrono minutes are on a central hand along with Chrono seconds. The bottom subdial is hours and the top subdial is 60 minutes.
Oh my god! I’m too horrifically embarrassed to say how badly I misread that time. Like a kindergartener learning to tell time bad!! I’ll just leave it at that.

I'm going to argue that if it's *that* easy to misread the time then it's not a good design! Although tbf, I do really like the watch!
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Could the 24 hour arrow be part of the chronograph? You start it when you glance at your watch to tell the time, then stop it when you’ve worked it out. Hence the usual 12 hour subdial on the Speedmaster not being long enough………
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Surely there must be something wrong with the watch if it is slaved to main time? The left subdial seems to have a day/night indication, and unless it is independently set the time is way off compared to the main time.
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According to Watchbase the movement in this, the cal. 1040, is the Omega version of Lemania 1340; automatic chronograph movement with adjustable additional 24h hand. So in fact a dual time watch.
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Wis wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:39 pm According to Watchbase the movement in this, the cal. 1040, is the Omega version of Lemania 1340; automatic chronograph movement with adjustable additional 24h hand. So in fact a dual time watch.
I don't think it is adjustable on these models. And the one in the pic is at 0215 just like the main hands. This is pretty similar to the day-date Speedy I posted in the Dreaming thread.

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rkovars wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:05 pm
Wis wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:39 pm According to Watchbase the movement in this, the cal. 1040, is the Omega version of Lemania 1340; automatic chronograph movement with adjustable additional 24h hand. So in fact a dual time watch.
I don't think it is adjustable on these models. And the one in the pic is at 0215 just like the main hands. This is pretty similar to the day-date Speedy I posted in the Dreaming thread.
Right, so ‘just’ a day/night indicator basically. Still, pretty cool.
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^^^These are cool models and usually pretty affordable. This one is priced a little high but given where it is, it is probably priced to haggle a bit.
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rkovars wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:03 pm
Wis wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:58 pm Very cool. Does it have a second time zone? I’ve never seen a sub dial like that on a Speedy before.
I think it is 24 hours but slaved to the central time. So not capable of being independently set.
Correct!
rkovars wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:27 pm ^^^These are cool models and usually pretty affordable. This one is priced a little high but given where it is, it is probably priced to haggle a bit.
I've always thought that the "Mark Speedmasters" are so much more interesting than the Mk1/Moon watch.
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