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watching you fail in your quest for a “one watch” has been great entertainment
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Lots of choice, but in reality only one........Standard Moonwatch with hesalite.
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downer wrote:When I saw the thread title "Speedmaster Minefield", I assumed we were talking about yet another limited edition.
Yes Omega have been rather milking the Limited Edition format recently. The only thing they've managed to do is cause a highly inflated "pre-owned" market, Watchfinder already advertising a Speedy Tuesday for sale (POA so about £10k probably) along with the Snoopy Award (POA again so also about £10k-ish) and a couple of other LE Speedys (or is it Speedies?)
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Tyke wrote:Lots of choice, but in reality only one........Standard Moonwatch with hesalite.
But that's a whole different discussion minefield.
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Mikkei4 wrote:... other LE Speedys (or is it Speedies?)
I usually go with Speedys :)
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golfjunky wrote:Yuk!
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tikkathree wrote:And am I right in thinking that the easy visual recognition of a Reduced Speedie is that the two subdials are effectively juxtaposed?
Yes. That and the subdials sit further away from the centre of the dial, much closer to the edge of the dial.
gaf1958 wrote:This is a Speedy with an 1155 inside.
tikkathree wrote:And that's kinda like a 7750, right?
Yep
gaf1958 wrote:The 1151 triple date is this one.
tikkathree wrote:And that's kinda like a 7751 yes?
And yep... :)
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Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D

*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D

*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
For the non-Omega aficionado, hésalite, or as I write it :wink: hesalite, is Omega's name for acrylic. The moonwatch comes with a sapphire crystal as well, but it's the hesalite that went to the moon... the choice of which has been discussed elsewhere, so I'm not getting into it here.

The two crystals are not interchangeable (crystal mount in the case is different for each), so you make your choice and stick with it...
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I'll add that I must agree with Steve, get the moonwatch; version as described above. ;)
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D
Don't pussyfoot around fella why not just say what you think? :lol:
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
What's the story with the 1861 calibre? Does the suggestion that this IS the best mean that the other cals are, er, not so good?

Hesalite? Unobtainium? Que?
gaf1958 wrote:I'll add that I must agree with Steve, get the moonwatch: version as described above. ;)
There we have it folks. There is The One Speedy and then there are all the other models. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Assuming that I do what you suggest, the plan will be to do this on/after retirement later this year. That gives me time to think about how to make room on the shelf.
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tikkathree wrote:
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D
Don't pussyfoot around fella why not just say what you think? :lol:
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
What's the story with the 1861 calibre? Does the suggestion that this IS the best mean that the other cals are, er, not so good?

Hesalite? Unobtainium? Que?
gaf1958 wrote:I'll add that I must agree with Steve, get the moonwatch: version as described above. ;)
There we have it folks. There is The One Speedy and then there are all the other models. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Assuming that I do what you suggest, the plan will be to do this on/after retirement later this year. That gives me time to think about how to make room on the shelf.
Where to start... 1861 is the same as the earlier 861 except for one extra jewel (well, apart from a very few late 861s that had it as well), rhodium plating instead of red gold plating. Apart from the additional digit stamped on the movement, that's about it.

Edit: the 861 is a more easily serviced, slightly simpler and I dare say, potentially more reliable version of the original 321. Not that it was in any way unreliable! End Edit...

Sapphire is much more scratch resistant than hesalite, but most scratches can be removed from hesalite in a few minutes with polywatch and some vigorous rubbing. A broken sapphire is also significantly more expensive to replace and/or repair than a deeply scratched hesalite - note I say scratched, as it's almost, but not quite impossible to break one.

The one? No, I'd argue that point, as you may get the bug. :wink: Six of my nine Speedys are moonwatches. Beware... :lol:
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D

*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
It's an intriguing thought that the Moonwatch frequently comes up in discussion for a 'special' purchase.

Far more than a Sub, El Primo or Tudor.

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D

*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
It's an intriguing thought that the Moonwatch frequently comes up in discussion for a 'special' purchase.

Far more than a Sub, El Primo or Tudor.

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote:
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:Pete, just get a Moonwatch*. You will fall in love with it. :D

*1861 calibre, bracelet, hésalite.
It's an intriguing thought that the Moonwatch frequently comes up in discussion for a 'special' purchase.

Far more than a Sub, El Primo or Tudor.

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- More folk think they are an astronaut than they are James Bond.
- A Submariner is likely to cost you twice as much as a Speedmaster Moonwatch.
- No one other than a fellow WIS is likely to recognise the Speedy.

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