Homages vs. Replica's
Homages vs. Replica's
Sorry- edited my previous post to another thread since it was not relevant to this one..
Sooooo instead, I want to see what peoples opinions are on the (possibly) heated topic of homages and replica's.
I personally think Invicta is a culprit of mass-marketed replica's and almost never have seen an Invicta that was purely thought of as the brain-child of the owner of that company.. most of their products resemble another current watch out there right now.
What are your opinions?
Sooooo instead, I want to see what peoples opinions are on the (possibly) heated topic of homages and replica's.
I personally think Invicta is a culprit of mass-marketed replica's and almost never have seen an Invicta that was purely thought of as the brain-child of the owner of that company.. most of their products resemble another current watch out there right now.
What are your opinions?
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
Is there actually ever going to be a truly unique watch ever again, that doesn't draw any design cue's from something that's gone before??????
Obviously there are some of the weird and wacky, and quite often very pricey designs some 'flamboyant' watch 'designers' come up with, but I think we can safely dismiss those
I don't really have a problem with the general idea, as long as they look exactly the same, or as close as dammit, to the original watches the design is taken from!!
Obviously there are some of the weird and wacky, and quite often very pricey designs some 'flamboyant' watch 'designers' come up with, but I think we can safely dismiss those
I don't really have a problem with the general idea, as long as they look exactly the same, or as close as dammit, to the original watches the design is taken from!!
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
Invicta would be labeled homage.
Replicas are illegal and are exact copies with the brand name. Or fakes if you will.
I mean look at CW for instance.
The Makaira pro takes design cues heavily from Bell&Ross, but I wouldn't call it a replica.
Most micros(not all) are homages to an extent.
Invicta does have original designs. Unfortunately none that I would consider purchasing because I find them unappealing.
But as said above, hard to find many watches these days that do not have similar features or characteristics to others.
Replicas are illegal and are exact copies with the brand name. Or fakes if you will.
I mean look at CW for instance.
The Makaira pro takes design cues heavily from Bell&Ross, but I wouldn't call it a replica.
Most micros(not all) are homages to an extent.
Invicta does have original designs. Unfortunately none that I would consider purchasing because I find them unappealing.
But as said above, hard to find many watches these days that do not have similar features or characteristics to others.
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
I have often found that if you have seen and handled the real thing, the homage or fake version (I just want to point out I hate fakes and they should all be smashed with a big hammer) are always going to be a let down. I tend to look at things from an engineering point of view when purchasing a watch so many things within the movement also plays a large part of my buying decision, homages have there place, but they aren't very exciting within and they will normally have an ETA, Sellita, seagull or some Chinese movement in them (I'm not knocking ETA, Sellita or Seagull movements) and they just don't have the finer qualities that original possesses.
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
You can never make something that is identifiable as a watch without it having some resemblance to what has gone before - it may be intentional, it may just be the design element is the obvious way to achieved the desired result.Monkey wrote:Is there actually ever going to be a truly unique watch ever again, that doesn't draw any design cue's from something that's gone before??????
The very first watch to have a round dial and 3 hands being the obvious exception
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
A replica and a Hommage are very different.
I would never own a replica, it is disrespectful.
Personnally I am in 2 minds about homages at the moment, I dont mind a hint towards an iconic watch but not too close.
I would never own a replica, it is disrespectful.
Personnally I am in 2 minds about homages at the moment, I dont mind a hint towards an iconic watch but not too close.
Re: Homages vs. Replica's
Not keen on replicas - homages on the other hand I think can be great fun. I've got one PAM homage (or two if you count my Magrette...) and when you see some of the dials that some people come up with, there is no way you could mistake them for Panerai's with the exception of case shape, which in itself is arguably just a large cushion case anyway.
Once you get into the shady realm of replicas that is another thing altogether I think. Saying that, I passed by a replica forum looking for a winding stem and couldn't believe the lengths that replica enthusiasts go to. Some of them are a couple of £ grand????
Once you get into the shady realm of replicas that is another thing altogether I think. Saying that, I passed by a replica forum looking for a winding stem and couldn't believe the lengths that replica enthusiasts go to. Some of them are a couple of £ grand????
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
I think the options for the vote were flippant and inflammatory.
Replicas and Homages are 2 different entities and shouldn't be lumped together.
As stated, nearly all watches (and many CW's) take design cues from other brands.
Replicas and Homages are 2 different entities and shouldn't be lumped together.
As stated, nearly all watches (and many CW's) take design cues from other brands.
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
Pointless poll.
Homages & replicas are different beasts.
Homages & replicas are different beasts.
If you can read this you are too close to your computer screen....
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Probably starting a Poll on your second day is not a great idea. Picking up on andyg and village's comments and adding to the mix your 2 last options is possibly risky.
I see you have already commented on Kip's Warning post
Perhaps posting in Members Introduction and reading this excellent post may be helpful.
http://www.christopherwardforum.com/vie ... =6&t=15026
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I see you have already commented on Kip's Warning post
davidtsee wrote:Hmm... okay, I might be caught under this log but to be honest- I do actually post threads that I have questions about and want to discuss, unless your speedposting is regarded to those who just post up "Agreed" to one thread or another?
Perhaps posting in Members Introduction and reading this excellent post may be helpful.
http://www.christopherwardforum.com/vie ... =6&t=15026
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
They really are a different kettle of fish in my opinion. Nothing wrong with a homage as long as you dont expect the same level of quality and engineering! You may very well like the look and styling of a high end model without the bank balance so wht not? Not trying to fool anyone! Replicas not so keen and the watch equivalent of a big fat lie!
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
What he saidvillage wrote:Pointless poll.
Homages & replicas are different beasts.
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
Anyone notice the OP has gone very quiet...
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
not surprised with that response above
not everyone structures their joining a forum in a neat way
personally I would have chosen the last option, except being British, I don't buy donuts and would never put cheese on top - now melted chocolate, or fudge sauce - bring it on!
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personally I would have chosen the last option, except being British, I don't buy donuts and would never put cheese on top - now melted chocolate, or fudge sauce - bring it on!
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Re: Homages vs. Replica's
funnily enough, i choose the last option just to be obtuse!akirk wrote:not surprised with that response above
not everyone structures their joining a forum in a neat way
personally I would have chosen the last option, except being British, I don't buy donuts and would never put cheese on top - now melted chocolate, or fudge sauce - bring it on!
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Each of us will face this question at least once in a year.
"Why do you have so many watches? You can only wear one at a time!"
Each of us will face this question at least once in a year.
"Why do you have so many watches? You can only wear one at a time!"