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joerattz wrote: My eyes have trouble with the date on many of my watches.
I had the same problem a year or six, seven ago. It was immediately fixed when I admitted that I needed glasses. ;)

You'd be amazed at the new level of appreciation for your watches you'd acquire with proper eyesight! :mg:
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Kip wrote:Hey Joe, If you really like the Rolex Seadweller look. Check these out.

http://www.debaufre.com/content/view/318/212/

I have owned the Steinhart Ocean 1 blue for about a year now. Keeps great time and is now available for less than I paid. It looks identical to a Rolex and is a far superior value with a swiss movement. It is no LE but it is a fine watch.
and how can I buy one from Romania as my country is not listed for delivery?!?!?
please help if you have any idea!!
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peterh wrote:
joerattz wrote: My eyes have trouble with the date on many of my watches.
I had the same problem a year or six, seven ago. It was immediately fixed when I admitted that I needed glasses. ;)

You'd be amazed at the new level of appreciation for your watches you'd acquire with proper eyesight! :mg:
It's worse than that peterh because I have glasses, but I screwed myself up with them. My previous pair of glasses were the first pair I ever had that were bi-focals. I got the progressive type. In truth, my close-up vision is pretty good and the major part of the close prescription was magnification, not so much correction.

BUt, I very much disliked the progressive bi-focal. I never had the old style, so maybe they are better, but I wouldn't know. So when I went last year to get a new pair, since my close vision is pretty good, I decided to get single correction lenses and forget about the close-up correction. Well, that was a bad idea. While I don't need the close-up correction, without getting them bi-focal, the entire lens makes the correction for my distance vision, so that means when I look at something up close, the lens is correcting for it being in the distance. That is horrible. If the bottom of the lens had just been clear glass, I would have been ok, but since the entire lens is using my distance prescription, no good.

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Kip wrote:Hey Joe, If you really like the Rolex Seadweller look. Check these out.

http://www.debaufre.com/content/view/318/212/

I have owned the Steinhart Ocean 1 blue for about a year now. Keeps great time and is now available for less than I paid. It looks identical to a Rolex and is a far superior value with a swiss movement. It is no LE but it is a fine watch.
Thanks for the link. I notice they are now branded as Debaufre. Did they change their name? Also, isn't Steinhart the brand that used to have those misleading ads about their watches? Maybe it is another brand.
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Debaufre=Steinhart
you can still buy both but Steinhart will dissapear!
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joerattz wrote: I notice they are now branded as Debaufre. Did they change their name? Also, isn't Steinhart the brand that used to have those misleading ads about their watches? Maybe it is another brand.
Yeah, they got threatened with a lawsuit from another brand because Steinhart was too similar. In the end they chose to change their name rather than fight what was looking like an expensive lawsuit. I don't know if they've ever had misleading ads,I first heard of the brand while skimming that magazine they have on airplanes. I checked out their website and they seem to be very forthcoming with the materials their watches are made of. I also know that if your a registered member of the PMWF you can get discounts on certain watches. The new diver they recently added is kinda cool.
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joerattz wrote:
BUt, I very much disliked the progressive bi-focal.
So did I, for weeks.
I have the progressive multifocals as well, and it took me up to a month to get used to it. Now that my brain has learnt to work with it, I wouldn't want to do without it. Plus, it's fun to be able to read "Swiss mov't" at the bottom of the dial.
But we digress. Back OT.

One thing I fail to understand is:
It looks identical to a Rolex
Why (even passing up my opinion about Rolex design for the duration of this entire contribution) would that be a Good Thing?
Why do some diver's watches sport the Mercedes logo in the hour hand, like Rolex does?
What's the use of "looking identical to a [fill in your favourite diver's watch here]"?

On a somewhat more comical note. I read this blurb on their web site:
Debaufré wrote:hear the ocean roar as it tries to intimidate you with shear size and power. That doesn’t faze you though; you have the Ocean 1.
You'd think that they might at least yake the trouble to hire a copywriter who masters the English language ;)
Debaufré wrote:its uni-directional turning bezel ensures that you don’t run out of air
Whoever wrote this has no idea of what scuba diving, and using a diver's watch for diving, is about.

Incidentally, Steinhart/Debaufré is a "sticker brand", in that they don't design or make this watch - the watches are in fact Grovana. I've never seen a Grovana in the flesh, but I hear that they are good watches.
I'd find it daring to say that Grovana "designed" the watch, as this, to me, looks like yet another Rolex lookalike.
I would think that considerably more care has gone into the Marcello C Neptune. While the Merc logon in the second hand puts me off a little (come on, Marcel, you don't need this!), it is evidently an individual watch, not a wannabe Rolex.

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peterh wrote:
joerattz wrote:
BUt, I very much disliked the progressive bi-focal.
So did I, for weeks.
I have the progressive multifocals as well, and it took me up to a month to get used to it. Now that my brain has learnt to work with it, I wouldn't want to do without it. Plus, it's fun to be able to read "Swiss mov't" at the bottom of the dial.
But we digress. Back OT.

One thing I fail to understand is:
It looks identical to a Rolex
Why (even passing up my opinion about Rolex design for the duration of this entire contribution) would that be a Good Thing?
Why do some diver's watches sport the Mercedes logo in the hour hand, like Rolex does?
What's the use of "looking identical to a [fill in your favourite diver's watch here]"?

On a somewhat more comical note. I read this blurb on their web site:
Debaufré wrote:hear the ocean roar as it tries to intimidate you with shear size and power. That doesn’t faze you though; you have the Ocean 1.
You'd think that they might at least yake the trouble to hire a copywriter who masters the English language ;)
Debaufré wrote:its uni-directional turning bezel ensures that you don’t run out of air
Whoever wrote this has no idea of what scuba diving, and using a diver's watch for diving, is about.

Incidentally, Steinhart/Debaufré is a "sticker brand", in that they don't design or make this watch - the watches are in fact Grovana. I've never seen a Grovana in the flesh, but I hear that they are good watches.
I'd find it daring to say that Grovana "designed" the watch, as this, to me, looks like yet another Rolex lookalike.
I would think that considerably more care has gone into the Marcello C Neptune. While the Merc logon in the second hand puts me off a little (come on, Marcel, you don't need this!), it is evidently an individual watch, not a wannabe Rolex.

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I agree with the "wannabe Rolex" sentiment.

I think I've narrowed down my choices to the Stowa Seatime and Ocean7 LM3. I also really like the look of the Seiko Samurai Blue Titanium, but would be concerned with accuracy.

I also have an offer to buy a Nauticfish 1000m for $700, but I'm not sure I like it as much as the watches mentioned above.
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Stowa it must be my friend!!!
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Also, isn't Steinhart the brand that used to have those misleading ads about their watches? Maybe it is another brand.
Joe, I believe you are thinking of Steinhausen( who by the way has a link on the CW forum), Great selection of designs, but who can believe them. These are Chinese movements for the most part. I don't know who designs or actually builds the Steinhart/Debaufre watch but the one I own and the Mach 1 chrono my son has are real tanks and have performed flawlessly.
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El Tiempo wrote:Yeah, they got threatened with a lawsuit from another brand because Steinhart was too similar.
Too similar to what?
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Kip wrote:
Also, isn't Steinhart the brand that used to have those misleading ads about their watches? Maybe it is another brand.
Joe, I believe you are thinking of Steinhausen
Maybe, I don't recall now. They had ads that made it sound like their watches were worth thousands. They compare it to some old swiss watch.
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joerattz wrote:
Too similar to what?
They didn't say which company, but I assumed Steinhausen. It was in the About Us section of the website awhile back. Maybe it's still there.
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El Tiempo wrote:
joerattz wrote:
Too similar to what?
They didn't say which company, but I assumed Steinhausen. It was in the About Us section of the website awhile back. Maybe it's still there.
I assume Steinhausen too. Steinhausen produce crap btw.
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