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Well done guys!

I have really missed playing the past few weeks. My partners have been checking in o a regular basis. Tomorrow could well be their last round of the season as the weather is really going to take a colder turn.

I plan on tagging along just to get out on the course as I think I am well enough to ride now. It is better than nothing.
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Considering, I only had a few low quality hours of sleep last night, I hit some great shots today, scored 42 stableford points and beat my playing partner with holes to spare.
It's a shame the season isn't longer, as I'm hitting decent form at the moment.

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At least if will give you hope for spring!
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magicman wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:59 pm Considering, I only had a few low quality hours of sleep last night, I hit some great shots today, scored 42 stableford points and beat my playing partner with holes to spare.
It's a shame the season isn't longer, as I'm hitting decent form at the moment.

Regards Steve
Looks like you're doing a 42 pointer every month Steve as you posted about 1 in October as well. Am I right in presuming these are still at Cranfield with the handicaps not changing as hitting 42 points frequently would bring a WHS HI down significantly and sufficiently to reduce the likelihood of those 42 pointers?

How has WHS been for everybody in it's first year? Overall IMO the WHS system is favouring higher handicappers and encourages some people to not enter a card every time they play, which is the opposite to it's intention. I think there's some adjustment needed on the HI to Course handicap calculations otherwise it'll never settle down to a realistic level.

For all of us - I can understand a closure of season for those in more wintery climates (Kip I presume) but surely most of us playing in UK will continue during the winter, especially as we haven't really had any bad weather so far?

My part-time job is quieter now so I have more free time available and have started also playing in mid-week medal and stableford competition rounds.
I didn't really start playing well until mid-July on a WHS HI of 20.1 but I tried something different resulting in my best 8 of 20 scores happening from mid-July to mid-October and my HI is now 16.7 which means a 16 playing handicap on my home course, back to where I was about 4 years ago.

As soon as you lose handicap shots on some holes though it starts getting more difficult so I need to improve my game lots more still to continue with reducing the HI. So, I've booked a swing assessment session for next week to see and feel what can be improved then a club gapping session the following week so I can understand the carry distances throughout the bag. These might cause me to have a few lessons which normally I try to stay clear of as I hate lessons !
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Mikkei4 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:34 pm
magicman wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:59 pm Considering, I only had a few low quality hours of sleep last night, I hit some great shots today, scored 42 stableford points and beat my playing partner with holes to spare.
It's a shame the season isn't longer, as I'm hitting decent form at the moment.

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Looks like you're doing a 42 pointer every month Steve as you posted about 1 in October as well. Am I right in presuming these are still at Cranfield with the handicaps not changing as hitting 42 points frequently would bring a WHS HI down significantly and sufficiently to reduce the likelihood of those 42 pointers?
Yeah still at Cranfield, any visits to big boys courses have resulted in shocking scores and a raise of my WHS handicap
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Getting those scores high stableford scores by shooting 82-86 on the par 64.
It's a bit complicated how we work it, but basically our best player has an official handicap of 22.
He plays Cranfield off 18, and I play plus 8 to him so 26.
I get cut 1 if I win and 2 for scoring 36 or more.
This week's high score due exceptional Putting, only needing 10 on the back 9.

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"Yeah still at Cranfield, any visits to big boys courses have resulted in shocking scores and a raise of my WHS handicap"

Sorry Steve but to be blunt this is golfing reality.
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Mikkei4 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:50 pm "Yeah still at Cranfield, any visits to big boys courses have resulted in shocking scores and a raise of my WHS handicap"

Sorry Steve but to be blunt this is golfing reality.
I tried to resolve the issue by making up a slope rating for the course and putting my scores into my Online golf handicap calculator.
But I ended up getting cut so much, that
I was a lower handicap than my playing partners, who are better players.
I'm not sure how to fairly resolve the problem, it's giving me false sense of where I'm at.

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Mikkei4 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:34 pm

How has WHS been for everybody in it's first year? Overall IMO the WHS system is favouring higher handicappers and encourages some people to not enter a card every time they play, which is the opposite to it's intention. I think there's some adjustment needed on the HI to Course handicap calculations otherwise it'll never settle down to a realistic level.

For all of us - I can understand a closure of season for those in more wintery climates (Kip I presume) but surely most of us playing in UK will continue during the winter, especially as we haven't really had any bad weather so far?

I admit I do fully grasp the handicap system calculations and frankly have not tried to figure it out. All I know is that my home course handicap is now always higher than the WHS. Under the prior system it was the same. I assume it has something to do with the slope rating on the course which is 122.

Our posting season in New Hampshire is from April 1 though October 31.
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^^^ I shall probably get more up to speed with these things next year. Numbers confuse me at the best of times. My objective (realised) this year was to get some clubs back in my hands and start playing and practising. One of my New Year’s resolutions will be to join a club and try to start playing better and more consistently. Although it’s not the closest, I do like the club where I played the other week and several of my friends are members. It has good facilities and two 18-hole courses (the Hill and the Valley) which are very different, as their names suggest. Time enough to get technical when I can hit it straight. :lol:
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magicman wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:05 am
Mikkei4 wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:50 pm "Yeah still at Cranfield, any visits to big boys courses have resulted in shocking scores and a raise of my WHS handicap"

Sorry Steve but to be blunt this is golfing reality.
I tried to resolve the issue by making up a slope rating for the course and putting my scores into my Online golf handicap calculator.
But I ended up getting cut so much, that
I was a lower handicap than my playing partners, who are better players.
I'm not sure how to fairly resolve the problem, it's giving me false sense of where I'm at.

Regards Steve
Steve, I understand your problem and feel for you. Unless your playing partners are also willing to enter their scores into your Online calculator you will be penalised if you continue to try to bring reality to your progress.

Very difficult while you're all playing at Cranfield. Is it possible to continue to see on the Online calculator what your handicap and score would be but play with your partners on the group handicaps?
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:13 am Time enough to get technical when I can hit it straight. :lol:
How often do you want to hit it straight before getting into technical stuff ?

I still only hit it straight a few times a round after 20 + years of playing so don't wait too long Steve :D
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Had a 30minute swing assessment on Thursday which was very enlightening. The studio uses Trackman (which is widely used within golfing teaching industry) to pick up all the technical data for example swing speed, ball speed, club path, angle of club face at impact (open or closed) etc etc.

There's also HR cameras videoing the swing so you can see your stance, backswing and return swing and this can be played alongside a tour player's swing to compare good and bad areas and to see what the various bits of Trackman data actually means.

Came away with a different swing and swing path purely from fairly simple change and it looks so much better and more fluid. I've changed the bag gapping session booked for next week into a follow up lesson hopefully to instill the change before playing again on 2nd and 4th December.
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Most satisfying round today.
Cold but sunny,it was perfect weather and the course was in superb condition.
Having gone off a cliff for no apparent reason earlier this year,and then playing as though using a plank of wood, I have been taking lessons. (End October last year I was playing to 13…as this year progressed I went up to 17) .I have basically completely rebuilt my swing,set up and pre shot routine. At last this work is coming through on the golf course and where I suddenly went from shooting in the 80s to being lucky if I cracked 100 I am now heading back in the right direction.
I went round today in 82 (43 points) which really should’ve been at least two or three shots better.
Just in time for the weather to change 🙄😁
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village wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:38 pm Most satisfying round today.
Cold but sunny,it was perfect weather and the course was in superb condition.
Having gone off a cliff for no apparent reason earlier this year,and then playing as though using a plank of wood, I have been taking lessons. (End October last year I was playing to 13…as this year progressed I went up to 17) .I have basically completely rebuilt my swing,set up and pre shot routine. At last this work is coming through on the golf course and where I suddenly went from shooting in the 80s to being lucky if I cracked 100 I am now heading back in the right direction.
I went round today in 82 (43 points) which really should’ve been at least two or three shots better.
Just in time for the weather to change 🙄😁
Was the rebuild a direct result of having lessons, or is it something you worked out on the range ?

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magicman wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:48 pm

Was the rebuild a direct result of having lessons, or is it something you worked out on the range ?

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Lessons.
My swing had deteriorated and I’d built in some weird actions to compensate. Unless you really know what you are doing then you can’t fix this yourself and definitely end the help of a pro. They can see immediately what is going wrong and teach you in steps.
I would definitely recommend lessons over YouTube videos!
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