Seconds hands – your thoughts?
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
1. Yes or no?
Yes, absolutely. My cheap Luch doesn't have one, but that's just a bit of fun.
2. Centre or sub/small?
Whatever best suits.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep?
I would take the sweep of a Spring Drive movement over everything.
Comparing my own watches, strangely I prefer the tick of the 9F over my centre-second autos, but enjoy the sweeping sub-seconds of my Nomos most as it appears more fluid (than the autos) on its smaller sub-dial.
4. Nice counterbalance?
Again, whatever best suits the watch. Some of them can be really tacky and cheapen the overall look of a watch.
5. Hit or miss?
Hit, without a shadow of doubt. It's hard to accept anything less than what I have right now.
6. Aligned to the minute?
I do try, but I often set my watches in the morning when I'm normally in a rush, so I mainly accept thereabouts. If it bothers me (which it sometimes does), I'll adjust it again later in the day.
Yes, absolutely. My cheap Luch doesn't have one, but that's just a bit of fun.
2. Centre or sub/small?
Whatever best suits.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep?
I would take the sweep of a Spring Drive movement over everything.
Comparing my own watches, strangely I prefer the tick of the 9F over my centre-second autos, but enjoy the sweeping sub-seconds of my Nomos most as it appears more fluid (than the autos) on its smaller sub-dial.
4. Nice counterbalance?
Again, whatever best suits the watch. Some of them can be really tacky and cheapen the overall look of a watch.
5. Hit or miss?
Hit, without a shadow of doubt. It's hard to accept anything less than what I have right now.
6. Aligned to the minute?
I do try, but I often set my watches in the morning when I'm normally in a rush, so I mainly accept thereabouts. If it bothers me (which it sometimes does), I'll adjust it again later in the day.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
1. Yes or no? - yes definitely want the ability to track seconds.
2. Centre or sub/small? - preferably centre but sub for a chrono. My Panerai also has a 9 o'clock small second subdial which I like for a change.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Don't really mind although I have no quartz watches at the moment.
4. Nice counterbalance? - never really though about it much although the Trident is a nice touch by CW
5. Hit or miss? - hit
6. Aligned to the minute? I don't get too hung up on this, just hack the second hand wherever it is on the dial and try to roughly get the minute hand in sync but wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
2. Centre or sub/small? - preferably centre but sub for a chrono. My Panerai also has a 9 o'clock small second subdial which I like for a change.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Don't really mind although I have no quartz watches at the moment.
4. Nice counterbalance? - never really though about it much although the Trident is a nice touch by CW
5. Hit or miss? - hit
6. Aligned to the minute? I don't get too hung up on this, just hack the second hand wherever it is on the dial and try to roughly get the minute hand in sync but wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
1. Yes or no?
Both. A dressy watch is more so without.
2. Centre or sub/small?
Both. Sub is more old fashioned of course.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep?
Absolutely no tick!
4. Nice counterbalance?
Keep it simple. A lollipop or some such is nice.
5. Hit or miss?
Miss would drive me crazy!
6. Aligned to the minute?
Preferably, and there are ways to do it without hacking.
Both. A dressy watch is more so without.
2. Centre or sub/small?
Both. Sub is more old fashioned of course.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep?
Absolutely no tick!
4. Nice counterbalance?
Keep it simple. A lollipop or some such is nice.
5. Hit or miss?
Miss would drive me crazy!
6. Aligned to the minute?
Preferably, and there are ways to do it without hacking.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
1. Yes or no? Yes, let's check....100% even the pocket watches.
2. Centre or sub/small? Centre preferred but pocket watches and chronos I expect a subdial.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Oh smooth sweep please every time.
4. Nice counterbalance? I'd consider it rude not to.
5. Hit or miss? Don't like it when the sweep second hand misses the minute marks or, horror of horrors, misses some of them.
6. Aligned to the minute? I rarely bother and respect those for whom this simple action is a step nearer to nirvana.
2. Centre or sub/small? Centre preferred but pocket watches and chronos I expect a subdial.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Oh smooth sweep please every time.
4. Nice counterbalance? I'd consider it rude not to.
5. Hit or miss? Don't like it when the sweep second hand misses the minute marks or, horror of horrors, misses some of them.
6. Aligned to the minute? I rarely bother and respect those for whom this simple action is a step nearer to nirvana.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
This is exactly what I do with my 2 Speedies, and a couple of other non hackers that I have too.Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:11 pmAbsolutely not a problem. You can in fact hold the movement by putting a little gentle pressure on the ground, which is actually in the Omega instruction book! My Speedy tends to gain about eight or nine seconds per day, so I tend to set it half a minute slow, then knock it back by a minute a week later. It stays in the zone.
Aligning with the minute hand means that it looks spot-on.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
I take it that doesn't mean you stand gently on the watch to get the second hand to stop movingAmor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:11 pm Absolutely not a problem. You can in fact hold the movement by putting a little gentle pressure on the ground, which is actually in the Omega instruction book!
Seriously though, does that mean you manipulate the crown in some way to pause the second hand?
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
^^^ Stupid iPad dictation software! I missed that one.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
Yep slight backward movement stops the seconds hand.Thegreyman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:52 pmI take it that doesn't mean you stand gently on the watch to get the second hand to stop movingAmor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 1:11 pm Absolutely not a problem. You can in fact hold the movement by putting a little gentle pressure on the ground, which is actually in the Omega instruction book!
Seriously though, does that mean you manipulate the crown in some way to pause the second hand?
Another way that I use with a Reverso is to start winding at a certain point to align with the actual seconds of the correct source time. I just had to learn how many winds were required to get the second hand moving.
Patrick a non hacking second hand is something you may have to get used to if you move to upmarket brands like PP.
Many of their models still don’t have hacking seconds...
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
Sorry, yes, I didn’t explain that very well. Thank you, Neil.nbg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:06 pm Yep slight backward movement stops the seconds hand.
Another way that I use with a Reverso is to start winding at a certain point to align with the actual seconds of the correct source time. I just had to learn how many winds were required to get the second hand moving.
Your check with the Reverso is something that I also do with a number of my vintage watches. Well, at least those that are accurate enough to bother with.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
Neil you've made my day . I must have already gone "upmarket" as my Panerai (in house handwound movement) doesn't have hacking seconds.nbg wrote: ↑Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:06 pm
Yep slight backward movement stops the seconds hand.
Another way that I use with a Reverso is to start winding at a certain point to align with the actual seconds of the correct source time. I just had to learn how many winds were required to get the second hand moving.
Patrick a non hacking second hand is something you may have to get used to if you move to upmarket brands like PP.
Many of their models still don’t have hacking seconds...
Neil
Luckily Steve corrected his post before I stood on my poor old Pam
I must try the backward pressure on the crown to see if that stops it. Up till now I've just treated the Pam as being on "ish" time!
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
So my non hacking miyota's are really upmarket watches. That's good to know.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
You can have my Blue Mako. A bargain at £7000.
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
1. Yes or no? Yes.
2. Centre or sub/small? Don’t mind. If the watch has it and I like the watch...
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Don’t mind. Again, if the watch has it and I like the watch...
4. Nice counterbalance? Again, if the watch...you get my drift?
5. Hit or miss? I’ve never had a watch that misses but I think it would bother me?
6. Aligned to the minute? Absolutely. I’m fussy about doing my best and getting things “right” so not aligning to the min/sec feels like I couldn’t be bothered, so is naturally hard for me! However, I’d never criticise anyone who who sets their watch in a “it’s near enough” way!
2. Centre or sub/small? Don’t mind. If the watch has it and I like the watch...
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Don’t mind. Again, if the watch has it and I like the watch...
4. Nice counterbalance? Again, if the watch...you get my drift?
5. Hit or miss? I’ve never had a watch that misses but I think it would bother me?
6. Aligned to the minute? Absolutely. I’m fussy about doing my best and getting things “right” so not aligning to the min/sec feels like I couldn’t be bothered, so is naturally hard for me! However, I’d never criticise anyone who who sets their watch in a “it’s near enough” way!
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Re: Seconds hands – your thoughts?
. Yes or no? Yes
2. Centre or sub/small? Centre is my preference.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Not too bothered
4. Nice counterbalance? Hmm - yes, but not too fussy
5. Hit or miss? Hit. Not OCD, but if it doesn't hit the mark I don't really see the point of having second marks.
6. Aligned to the minute? Yes. Again, not an OCD thing (so not too bothered if non-hacking) but when I set the time, I want it to be set right.
2. Centre or sub/small? Centre is my preference.
3. Tick, stutter or sweep? Not too bothered
4. Nice counterbalance? Hmm - yes, but not too fussy
5. Hit or miss? Hit. Not OCD, but if it doesn't hit the mark I don't really see the point of having second marks.
6. Aligned to the minute? Yes. Again, not an OCD thing (so not too bothered if non-hacking) but when I set the time, I want it to be set right.
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