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jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:28 pm My pet peeve? “First off…”. It’s not off. The phrase is “first of all…”. It doesn’t get shortened to “first off.” I thank Rex from Napoleon Dynamite for this abomination.
"Off of" as in "Hey, get off of my lawn!" Really?

And finally for now at least

Idyll and idyllic: the word is idyll, id being as in pan lid and not pronounced ideal-ic.

Please, someone kindly help me down off this soapbox :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Thanks for all the responses. My original post nearly just went in curmudgeons corner.

Thanks for the information that Squale is Italian for shark.

Should of is such a common usage, and not just by them footballers. .

Carlos Alcaraz' acceptance speech at Wimbledon was full of "you knows". How does a non English speaker get to use that phrase? (I think of him as "Charlie Pelican")

Is prolly a sort of general de facto abbreviation for probably, or do the users just think they do have the right word?

I came across this interesting YouTube the other day about eggcorns, which isn't quite the same thing as bad English.

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tikkathree wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:47 am
jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:28 pm My pet peeve? “First off…”. It’s not off. The phrase is “first of all…”. It doesn’t get shortened to “first off.” I thank Rex from Napoleon Dynamite for this abomination.
"Off of" as in "Hey, get off of my lawn!" Really?

Please, someone kindly help me down off this soapbox :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jagger and Richards would say "Get off of that" :D
They would "Get no Satisfaction " doing so. But then again "They can't get no satisfaction" so maybe they wouldn't, I'm confused now 😐

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Draws..... a chest of draws...... the socks are in the third draw down.
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Seems to me, a non-native speaker/writer that some of you could care less, while others have a very unique take on the problem. Some are literally going crazy with frustration! Very confusing for a poor foreigner.
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Trs1982 wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 9:43 pm On another note, it’s not so much pronunciation but basic written words.

Your and you’re. They are different. Yes, it matters.
Their, there and they're too
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I’ve always struggled to correctly say the ‘th’ sound, it comes out sounding like ‘F’

As my wife wife keeps telling me “I can’t say fairer than that then”…..
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Eat your cake and have it is often misquoted as have your cake and eat it too. What else are you supposed to do with a portion of food other than eat it if you've got it. That's not what the sayings about though. It's about not being able to have both scenarios simultaneously.
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iain wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:19 am I’ve always struggled to correctly say the ‘th’ sound, it comes out sounding like ‘F’

As my wife wife keeps telling me “I can’t say fairer than that then”…..
Which one?
The third man.
The first sound in the first two words are different.
Just for clarification.(!)
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Wis wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:35 am Seems to me, a non-native speaker/writer that some of you could care less, while others have a very unique take on the problem. Some are literally going crazy with frustration! Very confusing for a poor foreigner.
I think it’s like the weather - the endless variation of the English language gives us endless opportunity to have an opinion or a moan about something :lol:

It’s very egalitarian- everyone can have their own way of speaking and their own subset of gripes. On the other hand, in our small country obsessed by class the language we use often becomes a way of putting someone down for being lesser than you. I don’t really think language communicates anything very well.,.
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The older I get the less it concerns me.

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Wis wrote:Seems to me, a non-native speaker/writer that some of you could care less, while others have a very unique take on the problem. Some are literally going crazy with frustration! Very confusing for a poor foreigner.
As a 'poor foreigner' Bjorn, this gives me the opportunity to raise a point I've been pondering.

Is this pronunciation malarkey a purely English speaking issue, or does it exist in other languages? :-k :-k

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iain wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:19 am I’ve always struggled to correctly say the ‘th’ sound, it comes out sounding like ‘F’

As my wife wife keeps telling me “I can’t say fairer than that then”…..
Have you ever watched the interesting podcasts by Thoughty2. He does that.

I also like the interesting Why Files, but neither AJ nor the wonderful Hecklefish give me any problems. Sublime podcasts.

While I'm doing podcasts, Veritasium is wonderful. Especially when Derek Muller (the man behind Veritasium) won $10000 (it might have been less) from a distinguished professor when he proved that a self propelled wind machine could accelerate to a faster speed than the wind propelling it.

Especially this one about Thomas Midgeley, the greatest mass murderer of all time, not just once but twice, maybe responsible for global warming, and certainly responsible for lowering the world's IQ

https://youtu.be/IV3dnLzthDA

Finally xiaomanyc for his language lessons, and anatolygym for his repetitive but completely amusing weightlifting antics.
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Wis wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:35 am Seems to me, a non-native speaker/writer that some of you could care less, while others have a very unique take on the problem. Some are literally going crazy with frustration! Very confusing for a poor foreigner.
Except in the UK we say the except opposite. We couldn't care less. How does could care less make any sense?
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Martin wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:37 am
iain wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:19 am I’ve always struggled to correctly say the ‘th’ sound, it comes out sounding like ‘F’

As my wife wife keeps telling me “I can’t say fairer than that then”…..
Which one?
The third man.
The first sound in the first two words are different.
Just for clarification.(!)
Pronouncing my “th” and an “f” is a real thing. The rest of my post was just a lighthearted joke at my own expense rather than a serious comment.
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