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tikkathree wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 9:47 am I think that behaving according to a perception of other people's feelings is fraught with pitfalls.

Someone said "You can't please all the people all the time" and that remains true today. But you really want to?
I don’t see @iain as behaving according to other’s perceptions, so much as being trying to be conscious of and respectful of other’s situations, given his work environment. He laid it out beautifully in his follow up post.
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Let me elaborate on how I see @iain’s OP…

I’m reminded of a woman I worked with (I’m a public school teacher) who constantly complained about how expensive this area was to live and how she and her husband and family could barely afford to get by. This from a woman who drove a Mercedes, who bought her daughter a brand new car (the exact model I happened to drive) when she turned 16, who took TWO family vacations a year (including the annual cruise to Mexico over spring break), and whose husband took four weeks in the spring to go on a golf/MLB Spring Training trip with his buddies every year.

Now I didn’t begrudge she and her husband having an income that afforded them those things. What I did begrudge was regularly having to listen to all that while I was worrying about how I’d pay for the new tires my car needed and wondered if my parents would be renting a beach house again so that we could take the kids somewhere for vacation, or just in general how I was going to be paying the bills that month. She was utterly tone deaf to the reality of her coworkers.

I applaud @iain for having the awareness of how a conspicuous luxury item like a Rolex (because that’s what it is in this situation) could be read in his particular work situation.
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@jkbarnes thanks Drew I think that’s the general gist of where I am at.

There have been a few different thoughts on here though and I think it’s important to note there isn’t really a right or wrong answer. I made throw away comment on the CWOTD thread that received a few replies so I thought I’d start this thread to carry on the conversation. I’ve found it interesting to hear everyone’s different takes on the subject and I am inclined to agree with the view that no one will ever notice. However I’m still of the mindset that I’ll continue as I currently am with my wearing habits.
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Perceptions???
I have thought long and hard about posting this, it’s a bit of a life story
Looking at my watch collection you would think I was quite wealthy, far from it. I have never earned more than £25000 a year, even less now. I was lucky enough to buy my first house at 19 years old, with mortgage, worked up the property ladder over the years, took a hit when I got divorced, been single for about 17 years now,but managed to down size to a small 2 bed 1960’s bungalow, mortgage free.
I have an eye condition, Retina Pigmentosa, RP, registered blind, I’m very lucky because I have retained good central vision but have lost all peripheral vision and have complete night blindness.
I lost my driving license about 27 years ago so not had a car or motorbike since then. I’ve been on one holiday abroad in the past 25 years. Just think how much money I have saved :) I don’t do takeaways, coasta’s etc
This is my life choice.
So I spend what little money I have on watches :D I have very little savings so if the boiler breaks there will be a Rolex for sale :lol:
I wear my watches and I don’t give a rats A.. what people think, that’s their problem not mine, unless they want to rob me :shock:
They don’t know my situation
Not all people that own a Rolex are rich, flash or showing off as a status symbol, I would need more than a Rolex to have any status :lol:
I just get a great deal of self satisfaction owning a Rolex and I’ve said this before they make bloody good watches :D
I also like my SMP, Hamilton,IWC and all the other watches I have owned and sold over the years whilst having this silly hobby :D
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Re: Other people’s perceptions

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everyone has to look at their own situation and do what's right for them and their circumstances. i don't ever think twice about wearing any of mine for perception. would feel the same if i had a rolex. but i don't know of any circumstances where i would feel uncomfortable about how others feel about me wearing it.

that said, i have a friend who i do freelance work with/for on his liquor/beer business. when he wore his rolex OP into a bar in rural pennsylvania where he was with a distributor, the distributor told him he shouldn't wear the rolex on their rounds because of the perception of the bar owners/bartenders. and i get that. i'm just not in those positions.

and if i'm traveling, i pay attention to where i'll be walking around and if it's sketchy, i pay more attention to what i bring with me. just to avoid being a target.
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A lot of great points have been made on this thread and I’m sure most of us can see both sides of this.

I’d agree that 99% of the time it will be only watch enthusiasts or criminals that can spot what watch you are wearing. Us weirdos can obviously spot an Explorer at 20 paces (I’ve been wearing mine for the past few days coincidentally), but in reality I’m just wearing a black dialled watch where those 5 letters are probably only 2mm tall, so pretty inconspicuous.

I’m unapologetically going to wear whichever of my watches I choose, recognising the risk of being in London (or other equivalent hotbed of crime!).

I’d like to think that colleagues at work and people in general will judge based on personal interactions, mutual respect and not the watch I’m wearing, car I’m driving etc.
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kiter65 wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:59 pm Perceptions???
I have thought long and hard about posting this, it’s a bit of a life story.
What a great post.

I'll even forgive you the emojis.

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The only reason I wouldn't wear the Rolex is fear of getting robbed which is a sad indictment of our society as a whole. I mean what is the point of .... (snip. Ed)

Also, I think wearer personality comes into this as well. There will be modest types who wear a watch discreetly and are not interested in parading it for all and sundry to see. And there are also types for whom a Rolex is more a symbol of status and and wealth so they make sure it's flashed around on ThikTok and Instacack for likes.

You sound like a decent conscientious bloke who's self aware (otherwise why post the question) so I think if anyone had something to say about the Rolex, I'd hope it would be with a kind word rather than a cutting remark.

Side note: I think here in the UK, we generally have an attitude to not celebrate success and knock people down. Quite different to the places I've visited in the US. If you do well there, people aspire to achieving the same. Over here, it's more of a "knock them off their pedestal" approach and bring them down a peg or two.
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@kiter65 That’s a very alternative Rolex story. Don’t judge a book by its cover, eh. You REALLY are a Rolex fan; I admire your dedication to your cause.

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nbg wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 3:44 pm
JAFO wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:23 pm The trouble is, I think you are kidding yourself if you don't think a Rolex would be noticed.
No David. You are kidding yourself if you think that all models of Rolex would be noticed!

And noticed by whom?

- anyone?
- a watch person?
- someone intent on relieving the owner of the watch?
- someone with no interest in watches?

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This is kind of where I am landing. It isn't like we are talking about a gold Day-Date or a Daytona. Something with a lot more flash.

My wife wouldn't even clock an Oyster bracelet in public and I would consider her more knowledgeable about watches by association than most people.

The fact is you have always worn steel sports watches and given that nothing else about your person or persona will have changed it will just be perceived as another steel sports watch.

As far as people wondering if it is fake, I doubt most normal people even know there are fake watches out there unless they have bought one themselves, know someone who has or is interested in watches themselves. The fact is most people don't think about it at all.
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Your regular run of the mill person might however, notice a Bel Canto.
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@watchaholic I don’t think so, Dwight. Most of the people I connect with regularly are completely ignorant of the existence of CW. They’re ignorant about most brands. In fact, it’s hard to comprehend the magnitude of the **** they do not give about watches. We’re a rare breed and a minority.
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rkovars wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:38 pm My wife wouldn't even clock an Oyster bracelet in public and I would consider her more knowledgeable about watches by association than most people.
Rich that sounds like my wife! :)

In much the same way every black dial, twisty bezel, steel cased, steel bracelet watch I wear is apparently indistinguishable, regardless of the brand. That is fine by me. :lol:

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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:56 pm @watchaholic I don’t think so, Dwight. Most of the people I connect with regularly are completely ignorant of the existence of CW. They’re ignorant about most brands. In fact, it’s hard to comprehend the magnitude of the **** they do not give about watches. We’re a rare breed and a minority.
well... there's a difference between "noticing" and "understanding what you see." i have people who know nothing about watches that *notice* some of mine. i even have people who are just getting to know me that notice i wear different watches regularly. the young physical therapy assistant (probably right out of college) in my PT on Friday mentioned that she liked my watch and had noticed i was wearing a different one every time i came to therapy. she had no idea what kinds of watches, just that they were different. although to be fair she did at least recognize the omega name and was curious if i had any rolexes.
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gwells wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:09 pm …to be fair she did at least recognize the omega name and was curious if i had any rolexes.
Which I’m guessing didn’t surprise you too much, Greg. Whereas, has she enquired whether you had any Christopher Ward, Ulysse Nardin, Piaget or Christiaan van der Klaauw, your lower jaw would probably have hit the floor.
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