Can we have an over 18 thread?

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Re: Can we have an over 18 thread?

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NotEnoughWrists wrote:You lot should try coming to work with me- theres more profanity generated before the morning brew is over than there is on this entire site...and thats usually just the comments about the standard of flatulence (i have such classy work colleagues) :lol:
Same here, in an all male, high risk and demanding work place, unrestrained profanity is the norm.
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Re: Can we have an over 18 thread?

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hughesyn wrote:For the record, I don't want swearing on the forum.
Rule 1 and the ****s work for me.

Doesn't me we can't poke fun at ourselves and the system though.

The idea that a simple algorithm can sanitise the forum is a joke.
We had more fun with asterisks than actual naughty words anyway.
To be clear, I also don't want swearing on the forum. It's not what this forum has been about. And just because some people work in profanity-laden environments doesn't seem to be any sort of argument for allowing swearing on the forum. The forum isn't meant to be like those workplaces and should be as friendly and inclusive to everyone as possible.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind swearing in the right situation, but this forum isn't it.

I also don't think we need an "Over 18s" or "Members" section. This would still show up in the Unread threads listing, whether you'd want to see it or not, making browsing the forum at work impossible. Also, you've only got to look at the Boy's Room section of TZUK to see what this would turn into, which is not what I think we should be encouraging here.

Finally, I don't really like the auto-censoring algorithm. The rules ask members not to swear, so if they do then mods can pick this up manually or members can report posts and regular offenders can ultimately be banned. But I think self-policing would mean it rarely gets to that and there wouldn't be much swearing to deal with in practice.

Just my view. Sorry if it swims against the tide of most other members, or at least the members who have been posting more, recently.
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Re: Can we have an over 18 thread?

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Threads like this remind me why I stopped posting so much and left for a long time.

Nowadays I keep my posts to fairly vanilla stuff like watches and leave any opinions at the door!


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Welshlad, the thread was added to discuss wether it was even a possibility, all views are welcome.

I'm not a member of any other forums or even facebook so have nothing to compare to.

My personal view is that "the rules" are enforced far too rigorously, without any discussion and often without any explanation, and sucks the life / fun out of the forum.

The "thats what you agreed to when you joined " approach is getting very old, very quickly for me, so I was looking for an alternative way to keep everyone happy. I'm not saying this is the answer, but hopefully it will kick start a discussion
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Re: Can we have an over 18 thread?

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hughesyn wrote:For the record, I don't want swearing on the forum.
Rule 1 and the ****s work for me.

Doesn't me we can't poke fun at ourselves and the system though.

The idea that a simple algorithm can sanitise the forum is a joke.
We had more fun with asterisks than actual naughty words anyway.
I agree. There are good reasons why swearing, politics and religion have no place at a forum like this one. It adds nothing to the purpose of the forum and becomes hugely divisive.

The urge to poke fun yesterday was very strong, as the idea and practise of an algorithm sanitising the posts was new (to me), surprising and funny. I was very surprised when my posts were deleted and then the thread locked. Seemed a bit heavy handed.

I think selfpolicing and social norms work best and have/would/will prove to be sufficient. And I don’t support the idea of a special thread or section were it is ok to break the social norms of the forum. It will add nothing of value.
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Re: Can we have an over 18 thread?

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Just for clarity - my post referencing profanity in the workplace was merely an observation. not a suggestion that it should be allowed or even encouraged in public or in forums.
Profanities are a fact of life, however, they have their place, and a public discussion arena is not one of them.
I can, and do, swear with the best. BUT, I openly challenge individuals who cannot control language in mixed company or inappropriate places.

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DISJT wrote:Welshlad, the thread was added to discuss wether it was even a possibility, all views are welcome.

I'm not a member of any other forums or even facebook so have nothing to compare to.

My personal view is that "the rules" are enforced far too rigorously, without any discussion and often without any explanation, and sucks the life / fun out of the forum.

The "thats what you agreed to when you joined " approach is getting very old, very quickly for me, so I was looking for an alternative way to keep everyone happy. I'm not saying this is the answer, but hopefully it will kick start a discussion
The only other forums I am active on are Rugby League forums (I don’t do facebook, twitter etc.. either). The same ‘rules’ apply there, but the mods are a little more sensible about how they moderate the forums. Swearing isn’t actually allowed, but if it creeps in now and again and isn’t too ‘close to the knuckle’ its let go, plus the words are never written - they are ‘disguised’ by the poster themselves anyway. The bulk of users on those forums are nowhere near as ‘refined’ as the majority of people on here I can assure you, and there is a bit of ‘heated debate’ that goes on, but nobody gets offended. It actually leads to some humorous responses. If things go too far/personal then the mods step in. It works well. If those forums were moderated in a ‘black and white’ way it wouldn’t work, but as the mods use common sense and treat the users as adults who can fight their own corner it works well and people generally regulate themselves when things might go too far. If it can work and create a nice environment on a forum where fans of all different clubs are posting together then surely it can work in a place like this. It’s human nature for people to push the boundaries if they are not supposed to do things, however if there is a little leeway given and cases took on their own merit it normally leads to those boundaries not being pushed as its not as much fun.
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missF wrote:i don't need or want an over 18 thread. i can find that sort of content anywhere elsewhere on the internet.
Amy suggestions? Bored with what I already visit :lol:
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Not a K-18 but will keep u busy :thumbup:

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Another forum I use has a section called FOO, described as, 'This is the free for all area, live and unleashed, say what you like!'. It's actually just become another sub-forum, it doesn't seem to be a den of inequity, for example, one thread is about comic video clips, another is about taking words out of context, highlighting gaffes or double entendre's included in members posts, a classic was about toilet etiquette - there are some very funny writers out there. The point is that swearing isn't the point and there isn't much, but some more risqué stuff is there and it works within the context of the forum. It's bit like visiting the pub at lunch to relax and unwind before getting back to the serious stuff again. I recommend it.
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Wasn’t the original post simply questioning if PMs were being read and moderated on, as his swearing had been censored out? We are now questioning the rules, when there wasn’t an issue with them before. Reminds me of a guy who willingly transferred into my department, knowing the shift start and finish times and then was rather vocal about changing said times because they didn’t fit in with his lifestyle, as he put it. This then lead to management calling a ballot to change them because he had made an issue out of it. Fortunately, he was overwhelmingly out voted!
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Thermexman wrote:Wasn’t the original post simply questioning if PMs were being read and moderated on, as his swearing had been censored out? We are now questioning the rules, when there wasn’t an issue with them before. Reminds me of a guy who willingly transferred into my department, knowing the shift start and finish times and then was rather vocal about changing said times because they didn’t fit in with his lifestyle, as he put it. This then lead to management calling a ballot to change them because he had made an issue out of it. Fortunately, he was overwhelmingly out voted!
Steve, you'll notice that I've not commented since my original thread, which was to open a discussion and I can assure you that, unlike your colleaugue, this isn't a coup and I'm not trying to overthrow the forum gatekeepers or such like.

All in all, despite the Mods locking the thread, (a first for me I might add) it certainly drummed up discussion on this forum I think you'll agree.

It's been mooted in recent months about the forum sometimes resembling a redundant morgue so I'm pleased that it got tongues wagging and created some activity despite the thread getting crapped out of existence in the end... :thumbup:
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I didn’t intend that post to imply that you, personally, were staging a coup. Quite the opposite, in that I believed that this had blown up beyond your initial point! You’re right though, it got the juices flowing. :clap:
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Thermexman wrote:I didn’t intend that post to imply that you, personally, were staging a coup. Quite the opposite, in that I believed that this had blown up beyond your initial point! You’re right though, it got the juices flowing. :clap:
It did indeed and quite quickly too. Bring it on I say - love a good ruck !! :lol:
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Well ****!! **** ***** **** ***** ****n ****!!! And ****n ****** **** ******ing ****.

So **** **** and **** a *****!

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