A poll because I’m just curious

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Do you own watches with Roman numerals?

I have no watches with Roman numerals
31
66%
I have one watch with Roman numerals
7
15%
I have more than one watch with Roman numerals
9
19%
 
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Re: A poll because I’m just curious

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Well, I am about as far from sitting on any fence as it’s possible to be, but you know that. I have three watches with Roman numerals on the dials, and they are my favourite indices, hands down. The Tank, as well as being my favourite watch overall, is also my favourite dial – I think the oversized Roman numerals are just gorgeous.

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The C9 is also beautiful but in a more restrained way. I would have preferred IIII to IV, however.


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The Ulysse Nardin has lovely applied indices, with Romans at XII and VI.


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I’m surprised that a lot of people seem very anti, but I guess I feel the same way about blobs, and some people clearly love them.
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Don’t own one, but I’d like to. There’s a timeless elegance going on. I think you can dress them up or down, like a pair of handmade brogues. Since turning 50 I’ve decided to age in Roman numerals. Presently LV which sounds so much more refined. 😂

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I have 3 as well:
VALIMOR Valknut - very gothic/viking/arthurian legend
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ZERO WEST L1 Longitude (1 of only 20 made)
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...and the final one, a Cartier alternative, and cheaper to boot, the LONGINES Dolcevita
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Don’t we have a member with a California dial Rolex? It’s a neat look but not for me.

My lone Roman numeral dial…

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I should have wiped the dust away first
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That quartz movement is thin!
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jkbarnes wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:34 pm Don’t we have a member with a California dial Rolex? It’s a neat look but not for me.

. . . .
Wouldn't that be @Dickchins with his Wimbledon Rolex?

Although I have a hunch it got sold a few months back.

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Re: A poll because I’m just curious

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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:23 pm I’m surprised that a lot of people seem very anti, but I guess I feel the same way about blobs, and some people clearly love them.
I was curious to look and see if Roman numerals tended to be something that people did once - based on my thinking that I might have one, but it would seem a bit formal for my tastes, therefore it would only be the one. Not really enough numbers to demonstrate that. It’s nice to see the people who have more than one because it gives me an idea of the variety in the sector. Your UN AVO is an awesome example of a non formal watch with romans - one of my forum favourite watches :thumbup:
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I really like Roman numerals on a watch - if done in a classy way. I haven't got a Santos, but it's a watch I have tried on and am still seriously considering.

From my current collection, my Roman numeral watches are limited to:

C9 Small Seconds
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Nomos Club Campus - it only has two Roman numerals on it, and one of them is hidden in this photo!
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My 18th Birthday present watch from my grandmother, which saw me through my university days
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I suppose it does stem from the sundial... And untill well into the 1900, time gages we're indexed mainly in Latin. For almost 2 centuries, time was kept in a churches spire, and what's the church's language? The format of the spire clocks remained a standard for a long time. I believe the turning point towards Arabic numerals happened during WW1, when a time gage truly became a tool for the military, for the not so well educated masses who could hardly open a coordinated barrage at IV hours...
I like Roman numerals. I find them elegant. Though I do prefer sticks, blobs, shapes, or no indexes at all ...
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Some lovely looking examples of RN's in this thread, whether full dial or not. Personally, I don't think anyone does them better than Cartier. It seems to be the boldness of the numerals and the way they slope. Then there's the the name Cartier being contained the the V of the VII numeral, such a trademark.

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None sadly. However that situation will be rectified as a priority once my bel canto is paid for and delivered!
As a little aside: there are plenty of nice pics on this thread but, whilst I'm not too concerned about the IIII/IV dilemma, I think the Arabic numerals on the date wheel are an abomination in the sight of the Lord!
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Greatpotfarm wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:29 am I suppose it does stem from the sundial... And untill well into the 1900, time gages we're indexed mainly in Latin. For almost 2 centuries, time was kept in a churches spire, and what's the church's language? The format of the spire clocks remained a standard for a long time. I believe the turning point towards Arabic numerals happened during WW1, when a time gage truly became a tool for the military, for the not so well educated masses who could hardly open a coordinated barrage at IV hours...
I like Roman numerals. I find them elegant. Though I do prefer sticks, blobs, shapes, or no indexes at all ...
I think one needs to be wary of ascribing too much in the way of religious or linguistic significance to the process.

What we call Arabic numerals (essentially Western Arabic) entered Europe through Spain and Italy in the early Middle Ages, naturally through Muslim scholarship; Spain, of course, was mainly occupied for around 700 (DCC) years. They were largely unknown in northern Europe until the latter part of the 15th century, a few decades before the Lutheran, Calvinist and Anglican Reformations spread through northern and central Europe. Italy had had them at least a couple of centuries earlier, though it was virtually untouched by the Reformation. And it had very little to do with the dominance or decline of the Latin language. Although Latin was still in use as a liturgical and academic language (Newton wrote his Philosophiæ Naturalis Principia Mathematica in Neo-Latin, for example) the different countries of Europe had developed their own educated written vernaculars centuries earlier. Shakespeare preceded Newton by several decades.

In fact, the two numbering systems coexisted quite happily for centuries, and still do to some extent. It was often the convention to number hours in Roman numerals (not Latin, note) and minutes/seconds in Western Arabic. You can even see this on the chapter rings of quite modern timepieces, and also in seconds subdials. Interestingly, in the 1790s Breguet was using Western Arabics in his single handed subscription watches.

I think it is best regarded as a tradition. The reformed nations had the chance to rid themselves of anything remotely Roman, and yet they didn’t. They even exported it. I don’t suppose Waltham, Massachusetts was a hotbed of Catholicism, but they certainly produced a lot of pocket watches with Roman dials.

Just think of it as a traditional style. If you like it, you like it. If you don’t, rather like me with blobs, fair enough.
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Re: A poll because I’m just curious

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 12:45 am
jkbarnes wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:34 pm Don’t we have a member with a California dial Rolex? It’s a neat look but not for me.

. . . .
Wouldn't that be @Dickchins with his Wimbledon Rolex?

Although I have a hunch it got sold a few months back.

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I have never seen a pic on here of a Rolex with a California dial, Dickchins was just a normal dial with a few Roman numerals. It is not shown as sold in SC, although I hope that it has been sold, as Rolex prices are still dropping.

The California dial that Drew is thinking of may have been Steve’s Club Campus, or the Serica that someone else has.

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I don't own a watch with Roman numerals because like AVO and his blobs I simply don't like them.

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Re: A poll because I’m just curious

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Hey Guy (Bahnstormer_vRS), how about your Bremont S500 Bamford Special Edition with California Dial
...does that count?

Steve (amor-vincit-omnia), it's funny that you should mention Casablanca as I was actually looking at a Frank Muller Casablanca but at £5k plus I couldn't justify the cost based on the amount of times it would actually get worn.
...and your Ulysse Nardin is a real favourite of mine - stunning watch :thumbup:
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