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highway62 wrote:but can you be sure? As a company CW seems far more open about its inner workings so to speak! 8)

Agreed I can't be sure and yes CW is very open and I guess not many people worry much about the point i am trying to make but it bothers me. Put simply if all C700 have a Selitta I would be happy to have a C700 but if some have a selitta and some have 7750 then I would not be happy if mine was the sellitta. Illogical? Probably but its how i would feel and as much as I love the brand it niggles.
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understandable & for what it's worth I tend to agree.
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Beastmaster wrote:... if all C700 have a Selitta I would be happy to have a C700 but if some have a selitta and some have 7750 then I would not be happy if mine was the sellitta...as much as I love the brand it niggles.
IMHO a very fair point and well made.

The 7750 is seen as the industry standard and the benchmark. The Sellita is by comparison the new kid on the block despite them making bits for ETA. The issue as I understand it has been caused by ETA and Swatch Group themselves by limiting availability to companies outside the Swatch Group (or is that making prices too high for those outside Swatch Group?).

IMHO wouldn't be an issue if say a C700 was Sellita and say a C701 was ETA 7750 (or vice versa or whatever). However, as before this is perhaps more an issue with the watch collector/watch snob. This is maybe as it relates to a resale value. As an end user as it were who just wants a watch all that's really required is an automatic Swiss Made movement that does the job.

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KIP,

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute! You're saying my C700, not expected for delivery until early November, will have the ETA 7750 instead? Might I get it earilier than November?

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Russ-Shettle wrote:KIP,

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute! You're saying my C700, not expected for delivery until early November, will have the ETA 7750 instead? Might I get it earilier than November?

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Sorry, but no, I am not saying that! :(

I was not advised of any change in the projected shipping dates, but it was inferred that because Selitta was going to be late and that ETA is early (for a change), that by making the change, the delivery schedules should be about the same.
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Beastmaster wrote:... if all C700 have a Selitta I would be happy to have a C700 but if some have a selitta and some have 7750 then I would not be happy if mine was the sellitta...as much as I love the brand it niggles.
I understand the point, but is this really any different than using the SW200/2824 movements arrangements?

Actually I was looking forward to the SW500 myself so I could give it a good comparison, but I am not disappointed in the 7750.

The alternative in this case is to wait for the SW500 and probably not get the watches delivered by Christmas. If it was my business I know what decision I would make.

If CWL was not such a transparent company we probably wouldn't even know! They just wouldn't put the movement info on the website. The early buyers in this case get a bonus assuming he will switch to the SW500 at a later date. The reality is that most buyers won't care either way.

It would be great if the industry was in such a state that this move was not necessary, but I personally don't consider this a bad move. There would be many shortages and delays of many models if CWL did not have these options. Perhaps if this was 5 years ago and CWL wasn't selling so many watches, perhaps he would wait on the Sellita. Now this would be a costly decision to make IMO.
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The website has been updated to reflect the change to the 7750 on all versions.
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Kip wrote:The website has been updated to reflect the change to the 7750 on all versions.
So... any insights on whether the v7750 differs visually from whichever movement (in case it's a SW500) is depicted on the 001 shots?
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CWS wrote:
Kip wrote:The website has been updated to reflect the change to the 7750 on all versions.
So... any insights on whether the v7750 differs visually from whichever movement (in case it's a SW500) is depicted on the 001 shots?
I would suggest you look at the C40 movement photos. That is a 7750. Any differences in appearance are neglible. :)
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Kip wrote:Any differences in appearance are neglible. :)
Actually I wouldn't say the completely different tint of the mechanics is negligible to me:

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...but then, while I definitely prefer the photographic appearance of the movement in the C700 shot - I reckon it won't spoil the watch for me after all - the difference may even simply be due to lighting conditions moreso than metallic properties... STILL, I'm (righteously) pedantic about these things ;)
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CWS wrote:
Kip wrote:Any differences in appearance are neglible. :)
Actually I wouldn't say the completely different tint of the mechanics is negligible to me:

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...but then, while I definitely prefer the photographic appearance of the movement in the C700 shot - I reckon it won't spoil the watch for me after all - the difference may even simply be due to lighting conditions moreso than metallic properties... STILL, I'm (righteously) pedantic about these things ;)
What the watch in the second picture?
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Russ-Shettle wrote:
What the watch in the second picture?
C40. 8)
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Russ-Shettle wrote:
CWS wrote:
Kip wrote:Any differences in appearance are neglible. :)
Actually I wouldn't say the completely different tint of the mechanics is negligible to me:

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...but then, while I definitely prefer the photographic appearance of the movement in the C700 shot - I reckon it won't spoil the watch for me after all - the difference may even simply be due to lighting conditions moreso than metallic properties... STILL, I'm (righteously) pedantic about these things ;)
What the watch in the second picture?
The watch in the second pic is the C40 Speedhawk but is a very bad photo, my C40 looks more like the the pic of the C700 with shiny rather than dull looking components, I would suggest it would be hard to tell the movements apart without studying the makers engraved reference numbers.
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alphajet wrote: The watch in the second pic is the C40 Speedhawk but is a very bad photo, my C40 looks more like the the pic of the C700 with shiny rather than dull looking components, I would suggest it would be hard to tell the movements apart without studying the makers engraved reference numbers.
I guess they must vary. This is my C40..

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downer wrote:I guess they must vary. This is my C40..
A very reassuring photo, nearly identical to the C700 shot - albeit the gears in your movement appear steel rather than brass?
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