Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

Yes, feel free to scrap the 38mm version
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Yes, but only if we keep the current 38/42mm versions
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No, it's unnecessary (please motivate)
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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gwells wrote:
Dancematt wrote:Honestly the 38 is a great size for those who like to see watches fit like bespoke suits and the 42mm is a great size for those with big wrists. Should CW release a 40mm C60? No don't be silly but they should release a 40mm C600 with tritium gas markers and hands as the old one had some actual character (though not perfect)
now you see *this* makes sense for me. release a *different* diver in the 40/41mm range.
And in a brand new case design? :lol: okay maybe that's far too unrealistic.
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:I know you didn't, of course. Perhaps it is me being hypersensitive and working in education in the UK, where the term "special" is used as something of a euphemism. Particularly when used against the term "real", which implies normality or superiority. Mea culpa.
Yeah, special means the same thing out here too so I should have chose different words. What I meant was I think CW promotes the 42mm as their main diver as that's the best seller since large watches are in now. It's the original, good for almost everyone. Due to the state of sales and general requests, they made a second model, the C61 (or 38mm C60) as their unisex model. To them, I don't think a lack of a 40mm model is causing a miss to many sales so I don't think they will make the jump. As welshlad said though, a 5mm difference is a lot and I could see a middle ground of a true 40mm like Helson's approach which is great. 38mms, 40mms, and 43mms would work great for the C60.
Dancematt wrote:Should CW release a 40mm C60? No don't be silly but they should release a 40mm C600 with tritium gas markers and hands as the old one had some actual character (though not perfect)
I don't see them releasing a tool diver such as the C600 in a small size like that. Their tool divers are always big, look at the Makaira. It'd be easier and make more sense for them to make a slightly smaller C60 as the model is very hot right now and in demand. I don't see CW releasing a new diver until they discontinue the Makaria line. The C60 will obviously not be discontinued anytime soon, probably ever.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Between my 16710 (@ 40mm), Squale 20 Atmos (@ 40mm), Precista PRS-82 (@ 40mm), the Raven Vintage, the only 42mm diver I have and the Seiko MM300 (@44mm), they all wear quite differently in size, even for those with the same diameter, mostly due to case length and height. For example, out of the bunch mentioned the Raven wears largest. So I guess, unless there is already a 40mm Trident (prototype maybe), it will be very difficult to tell whether the 40mm version would feel right for those who'd find the 42mm too beefy.

I also agree with DM that CW should consider a new model in the sport/dive category, with just the Trident and Makaira, appears a bit thin comparing to the dress collection.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Devarika Woulf wrote:.
Dancematt wrote:Should CW release a 40mm C60? No don't be silly but they should releas
e a 40mm C600 with tritium gas markers and hands as the old one had some actual character (though not perfect)
I don't see them releasing a tool diver such as the C600 in a small size like that. Their tool divers are always big, look at the Makaira. It'd be easier and make more sense for them to make a slightly smaller C60 as the model is very hot right now and in demand. I don't see CW releasing a new diver until they discontinue the Makaria line. The C60 will obviously not be discontinued anytime soon, probably ever.
I see what your saying about tool divers and CW's take on them. Modern watch brands have (more often than before) mutated the 'tool diver' into some huge monstrosity as if the size could somehow take more of a beating than a smaller watch or turn you into Arnie or whatever but historically tool divers have often hovered around the 40mm mark. I disagree it would make more sense to relase a 40mm C60. it really wouldn't, there are enough variations on it and in two different sizes to meet demand; it may be eaiser but it would be a waste of effort- creating a new case design in a widely regarded 'perfect mans size' would make much more sense. CW still dont have an iconic watch as such, a totally fresh start would be the best foot foward.

Im not totally certain but i believe the C600 was the worlds first 500m WR tritium watch? Although never advertised as such it is that sort of pioneering that helps sell watches. How about stepping outside of the crowd making a statement such as 'the worlds thinnest dive watch', sure it might go against the flow (not that it matters with the c60 mopping up with the sales) but it causes a buzz and gives you a page in history.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Perhaps it'd be best for CW to come up with a new kind of sports/dress watch such as the C65 but around 40mm? I just see 40mm being too small for a diver nowadays if that was the only size it was released in. Perfect for many of us but not for the general public and it might be a slow seller. A C65 type watch would make more sense in terms of sale because it also doubles as a dress watch. Then again, perhaps use this interest as an opportunity to release a smaller version of the C65 that a few have requested. It wears large due to it being all dial, right? So maybe a C65 in 39mm would be a great alternative and maybe it would even generate some more sales for the C65 because that'd be the only way to get a 40mm Trident. I always thought 42mm was a bit large for the kind of watch it was trying to be and it actually wears larger. :shock:

I'm just speculating and putting out ideas. I hope CW finds a way to please everyone with our different wrists. :D
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Is 40mm the perfect size or am i just buying into the hype and conning myself ?
I had a serious look at my collection and although i like the proportions and wrist size of my Tutima ( Only 40mm Watch in collection )

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The three watches that get the most wrist time are 40mm 42mm and 44mm. The thing they all have in common is a 30mm Dial :problem: I'm starting to think focusing on case size is the wrong approach and am reverting back to plan A of fit , style and making me smile :D
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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I have also come to the conclusion that dial size (or maybe crystal size) is the most important metric to assess whether a watch will fit my wrist. And dials around 30-32mm seem ideal. It ought to be a metric that is more widely published really.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Wonder how many other members have a preference for a dial size. In the watch's they wear the most ?
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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i think it's a big mix of things. dial size vs bezel size /shape vs lug length/shape vs case height vs (other things i'm forgetting).
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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Yes, i think they should just keep 2 sizes 38mm and 41mm. No need 40 or 42.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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A 40mm Trident is being considered for 2017 if enough people show interest. Send them emails, though it could take almost three years. :o
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I'll have to keep waiting. Wonder what the price will be by then.
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Re: Would you like to see a 40mm version of the Trident?

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hilariuous thread. one person said 38mm and 41mm lol.
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