Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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ianblyth wrote:There is no minimum number of posts and to be honest I don't think it needs it. We get the occasional for sale stuff but we get a lot more spam. I would be more worried about how some threads are starting to get aggressive. This has always been a friendly place in the past (with the occasional outburst). My view would be to see what it is for sale and if it does not interest you then ignore it. It would be different of there was a new sales post every day but there is not.
+1 on this sentiment. My, this discussion is lively! I am all for people venting frustration and I think that the forum (to some degree) is a good place to do it but to echo Kip, lets lighten up a bit! We all have a choice to ignore these posts but conversely, we all have an opportunity to express displeasure at said posts should we feel the need. Therapy session :lol:
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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I try not to worry if an individual's first two posts are sales. It doesn't fit in with the social nature of the forum that I enjoy, but we all have the option to ignore the posts (or, alternatively, buy the watches). That individual may stay and become a valued member, may sell lots more lovely watches, or may crash and burn.

At least both watches look to be in good condition and the pictures are clear.
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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I totally agree with Loddonite's expressed opinion.

We need to lighten up - unless someone really annoys us and then we give it to 'em both barrels!!

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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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To be honest I would be unlikely to buy from someone who had not made a few posts in various areas of the forum and thus allow some measure of their attitude and temperament to be made. Depending on the person and the type of post this can be achieved fairly quickly. Putting a 50 post limit or other similar figure might get a lot of "numbers in pictures" posts or something similar, but wouldn't necessarily actually gain anything.

As the forum carries the CW name people are naturally going to be drawn here to sell on a CWL to the most likely market to buy one. Hopefully the interaction with the members in the sales section is enough to get them to stay.

What would be nice is if the sales corner could be tidied up a bit to move on the finished sales threads, but I appreciate that the admins have plenty to do and actually the fault really lies with the sellers not changing the title of the thread to indicate sold.
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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mjh93sa wrote:To be honest I would be unlikely to buy from someone who had not made a few posts in various areas of the forum and thus allow some measure of their attitude and temperament to be made.
People say buy the seller first.
mjh93sa wrote:actually the fault really lies with the sellers not changing the title of the thread to indicate sold.
And not just on this forum. :(
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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Come on people Calm down,
personally i dont have a problem with how many posts have been made, if the watch in question had been in good condition and reasonably priced i dont think anyone would have made comments, it would have been snapped up. On the other hand im quite sure their is someone on this forum that may not of seen the for sale thread and was actually able to restore this watch as a project to its original state or close to it.
There has been a few threads lately getting a bit heated and diverted from the original post, my advice would be to take some new meds (calms) maybe, and get back on track. we,re all grown-ups (well most of us) and most of us have the same disease with collecting far too many watches than we actually need.

Now back to the PS3 & gran turismo 5, coz this thread is getting boring :D
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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footycrazy wrote:personally i dont have a problem with how many posts have been made, if the watch in question had been in good condition and reasonably priced
Hmmm.... Please indulge me as I provide some more context then, because I think you're modulating amplitude while I'm modulating frequency...
  • One big part of knowing anything about the watch (item for sale) is knowing something about the seller. While it is certainly possible for a shyster to join and banter for a month before trying to scam someone, it's not nearly as likely as it is for a fly-by-night newcomer.
  • To me, that implies that veracity of the description of the "condition" of the watch can be partly divined by the history of the poster.
  • It's also a cultural issue. All fora, not just this one, are hard on people perceived as being insensitive to the primary purpose. There is some debate about the primary purpose; Kip doesn't seem to really consider the CW Forum to be in any way restricted to primarily CW topics. But none-the-less, CW is a bonding agent on a CW Forum.
My preference would be an automated litmus of > 10 posts and > 2 weeks, but I'm not going to tilt into the wind about it either, because we have plenty of acerbic firepower ready to scorch any newbies posting sales ads without sufficient nomex underpants regardless.
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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My point exactly :D
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Okay, since you do not understand, I am going to go against my own recommendation and respond. Suggesting that everyone stop replying and commenting, requires a post. The other members cannot read my mind for some strange reason.

Don't think I've done anything wrong that needs owned upto or feel the need to apologize.

Generally deceitfulness is something that is considered wrong. A banged up watch and a watch that has had water in it are drastically different.

Sorry to destroy your dream classiccarguy of the utopian society you think you are living in, but in the reality I inhabit if someone has a go at me I think I'm entitled to defend myself...go figure.

No, I am not a member of the utopian society, but when someone is dishonest they typically get the response that you got. Something about being a shyster seems to irritate most people.


But some of your forum members start getting all **** because I posted on TZ my opinions (remember that they are my opinions) on how the sale was developing. So what if there was no B&p, the post had poor pics & i added details as time went on, none of you wanted to take a punt on it or requested additinal info. So as I droped the price to see where the CWL market would bite the abuse I recieved commenced on two threads, which, frankly was unwarranted and indicative of the ungentlemanly conduct of some CWL forum members.
Funny I don't see any reference to this behaviour or any chastisement of it in your post. Not a case of protecting the old boys network is it?


That is funny. You got flogged on two entirely different forums? So people who are not part of the "old boy's network" flogged you too? Generally if all signs point at the same thing, it is correct. i.e. your conduct was inappropriate.

If you would have shifted your eyes about 6 inches to the right, you might have noticed that I just joined this forum myself. I was not defending the CWL members by not chastising them. They were certainly not acting ungentlemanly either. Your behavior warranted their responses. Again, being a shyster seems to irritate most people.

Yes, I proofread my own posts. I figured common logic might dictate that for someone to tell everyone to stop talking requires talking. Yes, I repeated some things, but that was intentional.

I only recommended the cutoff for others' sakes. I actually enjoy a good debate or argument. If you would like to keep going at it that is fine with me. I really do not care. Fume away man.
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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Someone Else wrote: There is some debate about the primary purpose; Kip doesn't seem to really consider the CW Forum to be in any way restricted to primarily CW topics. But none-the-less, CW is a bonding agent on a CW Forum.
If I may respond in kind...... What Kip thinks is this....

You are correct that CWL is the bonding agent of this forum. It is the reason we exist. We are as the masthead says "An independent forum for CW enthusiasts" That is our primary purpose and focus.

We are also "watch enthusiasts". As we have grown so has the desire to discuss other subjects and interests among the members. This is why over time we have added many other subject areas, as most members have many different interests besides watches. Most of these subjects have provided many hours of enjoyment and pleasure for our ever growing membership.

I, like many members, belong to other forums. Quite frankly, I rarely post on any of them, but do check in from time to time. I have all I can handle in this "Asylum". Many members are active on several forums and bring us news and information they feel is worthy. Sometimes it is even CWL related.

The CWL forum is not restricted to strictly CWL subjects, nor do I think it should be. It will however, remain primarily as the masthead says..A CW Forum.

Our founder, Hans, had the foresight to create this "Asylum" as well as try to keep it as free from censorship as possible.

It is that desire that guides the "Forum Team" and allows everyone to essentially speak their mind. I admit we have tightened things up a bit as we have grown to include female members and have garnered far more exposure worldwide. We have managed to operate without a formal set of rules up to now but will tell you also that the team has addressed this issue a few times and do plan on addressing it again. If we feel it is necessary we will issue more formal guidlines. That is however not what we wish to do.

The members here are generally self policing, which is wonderful, as it makes my job much easier. It is a rare occurance when I feel I must lock down a topic, edit a members post or step in to suggest a new avatar. I am sure long time members will attest to this.

I sometimes find it difficult to restrain myself from butting in, but I too have become irritated enough on occasion to blast someone or a situation. When I do I try to do it as calmly as possible (not always successful). I do try to keep the unwritten guidelines of the forum in mind at all times as well as using common sense. That is also what I expect to see from the membership.

If you cross my line or the forums line you will hear from me. If I cross it I would expect to hear from you.

Disagreements aside.....this is a wonderful place for CWL fans to voice there opinions and let CWL know what they think.
If you have something else you wish to talk about while you are here...great! We have topics to do that in.

Now can we please cut the crap before I get all ****!
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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As a newbie on this forum, I would also like to make a comment, I agree with Kip, since joining the forum and buying my first CW watch (tempted to buy more like most) I get great pleasure in reading the comments made by other forum users, if I feel I wish to add to those words put down by others I make a comment (like now) if I don't feel like commenting then of course I don't......freedom I think they call it, too many rules and regulations only make life even more stressful, so my opinion (if it counts) is "don't change it if it isn't broken" it will be a sad day when someone somewhere reads and censors any posting before being launched to the fellow forum users, of course any comments that are offensive or rude should be removed, but all in all keep it as it is.
Oh by the way......does this posting move me nearer the sellers corner?.......hang on I don't want to sell, I want to buy..!
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Given time, this will all die away quietly. Why? Because usually the few chancers (you know who you are) who come on purely to sell watches (CW's or others) don't have a vested interest in continuing to post, so once the initial flurry is over they will never be heard from again.

If people don't believe me, then I'd wager that a certain double poster in the non-CW sales section won't accept my invitation to introduce themselves & get involved in the day to day CW related chat.

One final thing on this; if people do come on purely to sell & they manage to do so, word always gets round other forums that this is a good place to do free business & could result in a mass influx of this activity. I've seen dealer invasions like this elsewhere, sadly resulting in the prohibitive measures we are trying to avoid. As has been said before, buying the seller can be as important as buying the watch.

Right back to the fun posts! :D
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Re: Would it be possible for minimum number of posts

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Kip wrote: Now can we please cut the crap before I get all ****!

Right, there you go.....you've been told!! :mod: :kettensaege: :laserschwert: :shock:
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