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ROF68 · Post by **ROF68** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:34 pm

So sorry I couldn't make this. Thanks for arranging it, and hopefully I can make the next one. The watch looks great!

albionphoto · Post by **albionphoto** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:54 pm

Casual Watch Talk have a preview and interview with Mike France. I guess a lot of the talking points were the same for the preview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgtL0nlwyvw

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:56 pm

welshlad wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:54 pm
MichaelMD wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 12:48 pm I see the 20mm bracelet tapers down to 16.5mm at the clasp. Am I correct in assuming the 22mm tapers down to 18.5mm?
On the Aquitaine, the bracelet tapers from 22mm down to 16.5mm at the clasp, so I imagine it's the same here. In my opinion, the taper looks good on the Aquitaine, so I would say don't be concerned about it here.

Interesting. So both the 20 and 22 mm bracelets use the same clasp. That's a big taper if that's the case!

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:08 pm

johnwigan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:03 pm It is a personal preference. CW used to make nice solid decorated casebacks - the trident printed on them with patterning, for example. The display casebacks CW did make had more interesting and better decorated movements. Nowadays, everything has a display caseback showing a standard Sw200. Sw200 is a reliable workhorse but it is a basic movement with not much in the way of decoration or much of interest to look at. I think a dive watch in particular is better suited to a solid cashback. It is supposed to be a tool watch after all.

A solid decorated caseback can help distinguish between watches in the different ranges. I have an Aquitaine with an sw200 display case back. Do I want another Sw200 display caseback? To go with all my other sw200 casebacks? Me personally, no. Too samey. Both defined and dominated by display Sw200. With solid and preferably different case backs, the SW200 movement is less prominent and the Aquitaine and the Trident Pro 300 are more defined as separate, different watches from different ranges.

It isn't just CW, everyone seems to be doing display casebacks. I look at watch brands such as Omega and I think a lot of their display casebacks just don't look very good. In my opinion if you are using a display caseback you have to really do something with the movement otherwise it just looks like a half-finished watch. Recently, every new CW watch has the same sw200 display case back. They all look the same. I would like to see some new watches with solid casebacks and also with the in-house movement. I would rather pay more for something more interesting. CW seem to be aiming for value for money, which is fine, but I would like to see some options for those who want something different from what they already have. Every watch is starting to appear samey.

As an aside, another fashion I absolutely loathe is see-through watches. The sooner this fashion passes into the dustbin of history the better, in my opinion. Why doesn't CW not make some patterned dials or try a Grand Seiko snowflake or bark or cherry blossom style dial. Or a Rolex style palm dial or some variation or other.

As for COSC, it is good enough timekeeping for me and well worth the extra £100. I can wear a COSC watch everyday and forget about it. Non-COSC can vary but for me need adjusting every few days (at least). Just not quite accurate enough and an annoyance. Depends how important the correct time is for you.

I just hope the next model after this one is not another display caseback sw200 watch.

Good points and like you stated, and the end of the day it's personal preference. I'm more from the angle of I don't see much of a negative with adding a display case back so why not? But you are right that there's not a whole lot to look at with the SW200 movement and maybe a decorated solid case back could be an improvement, especially if you have several already (I have the Atoll so I hear ya). I watched the YT vid of Mike France and he did say that adding a display case back added a very slight increase to the thickness of the case. I'm guessing it's in the range of 0.5mm. So There is something, albeit small, to be gained by using a solid case back in that there is a slight reduction in the thickness of the watch.

End of the day I'm happy either way. 11.5mm is incredibly thin for a 300 meter dive watch. I like display case backs but when it's on the wrist it doesn't do anything and isn't visible, so not a deal breaker for me. I like to have it, but don't particularly miss it when it's not there.

COSC - Yeah I'd probably throw in an extra $100 for a COSC certified movement. But I wear watches in rotation so it's not a big deal for me. I'm still in shock that my Atoll came in at <$600 USD. That is a total steal for this watch and at ~8 sec/day it works out just fine for me. If it were my one and only watch it would make a bigger difference. Good chatting with you and I appreciate your thorough reply

golfjunky · Post by **golfjunky** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:15 pm

johnwigan wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 11:03 pm
I would rather pay more for something more interesting. CW seem to be aiming for value for money, which is fine, but I would like to see some options for those who want something different from what they already have. Every watch is starting to appear samey.

I think CW are staying in their lane (not a bad thing) when it come to vfm and choices/range. they are a stepping stone brand after all.

asqwerth · Post by **asqwerth** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:17 pm

(slightly off-track)

The Loupe voucher is making the white 36mm Sealander -- not the 300 - very tempting.

But I don't want to get it until/unless the bracelet uses the new single-screw links [all the posts here about the current bracelet are scaring me!].

Unfortunately there's no certainty it will ever come to the 36mm.

Going to be sending CW an email. If it's coming but not in the next few months, I'm prepared to wait.

TheBeatles · Post by **TheBeatles** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:39 pm

A couple of observations on the 2 that I prefer:-

Green 42mm on Bracelet - for me the taper from 22mm to 16.5mm is too much. Bracelet links not now a problem due to being single screws, (thanks to those who pointed it out) but that taper puts me off.

Other strap combinations not inspiring.

Black/White 42mm on Orange Rubber - is the rubber strap FKM or plain rubber? Once again, I’m concerned about legibility. The video on sale page shows the hands as almost black outlined. But with the other colours you can plainly see that they are silver edged. Every time someone shows this combination, the angle always shows the hands in the best light.

Black/Orange hybrid an option at just £10 extra, but I keep coming back to the hands!

BeardoCI · Post by **BeardoCI** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 pm

Hmmm. I like the white. A lot.
Quick question then - the bracelet from my C60 Sapphire will fit the 40mm, right? So I could get this on the hybrid rubber and have that as an option for both watches?

tikkathree · Post by **tikkathree** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:00 pm

BeardoCI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 pm Hmmm. I like the white. A lot.
Quick question then - the bracelet from my C60 Sapphire will fit the 40mm, right? So I could get this on the hybrid rubber and have that as an option for both watches?

This question was raised a couple of times during the zoom and eventually there was confirmation from MF's colleague that there is a difference ISTR in lug and hole height.

BeardoCI · Post by **BeardoCI** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:03 pm

tikkathree wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:00 pm
BeardoCI wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:51 pm Hmmm. I like the white. A lot.
Quick question then - the bracelet from my C60 Sapphire will fit the 40mm, right? So I could get this on the hybrid rubber and have that as an option for both watches?
This question was raised a couple of times during the zoom and eventually there was confirmation from MF's colleague that there is a difference ISTR in lug and hole height.

Well, that's a bit annoying.

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:23 pm

TheBeatles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:39 pm Green 42mm on Bracelet - for me the taper from 22mm to 16.5mm is too much. Bracelet links not now a problem due to being single screws, (thanks to those who pointed it out) but that taper puts me off.

Other strap combinations not inspiring.

Feeling the same way. 22 down to 16 is too much taper That may look almost commical. 22 down to 18 is my personal limit for taper. I'll have to look at some YT vids in hopes we wrong about the 22/16 taper

audio.bill · Post by **audio.bill** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:30 pm

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:23 pm
TheBeatles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:39 pm Green 42mm on Bracelet - for me the taper from 22mm to 16.5mm is too much. Bracelet links not now a problem due to being single screws, (thanks to those who pointed it out) but that taper puts me off.

Other strap combinations not inspiring.
Feeling the same way. 22 down to 16 is too much taper That may look almost commical. 22 down to 18 is my personal limit for taper. I'll have to look at some YT vids in hopes we wrong about the 22/16 taper

Here's a pic showing the bracelet taper from the 42mm on bracelet listing:

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:34 pm

audio.bill wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:30 pm
MichaelMD wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:23 pm
TheBeatles wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 2:39 pm Green 42mm on Bracelet - for me the taper from 22mm to 16.5mm is too much. Bracelet links not now a problem due to being single screws, (thanks to those who pointed it out) but that taper puts me off.

Other strap combinations not inspiring.
Feeling the same way. 22 down to 16 is too much taper That may look almost commical. 22 down to 18 is my personal limit for taper. I'll have to look at some YT vids in hopes we wrong about the 22/16 taper
Here's a pic showing the bracelet taper from the 42mm on bracelet listing:

Hmmm, that is a lot of taper. Not sure I've seen a 22mm bracelet with that much taper. Guess I'll have to withold judgement until I see a few wrist rolls.

nbg · Post by **nbg** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:53 pm

^^^ Is the taper worse than this one?

Neil

MichaelMD · Post by **MichaelMD** » Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:34 pm

nbg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:53 pm ^^^ Is the taper worse than this one?
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Neil

You know, it's funny. I just measured my Atoll. That's a 20mm lug width that tapers down to 18 at the clasp. The clasp itself is around 19.5mm wide. With these new ones they are going from 22 down to 16. That's a hell of a change. I would prefer 22-to-18. Guess I need to see it on

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