I just ordered both black and green with the intent of returning one.

Did they mention how this will co-exist with the current C60 600, if at all?

It will look a bit strange to have them on sale alongside each other until mid 2023 if that is when the Mk4 comes.

With no drastic difference in a appearance, similar technical specs and slight cosmetic differences it could be confusing which to choose. The one with the higher depth range which would be traditionally more premium or the one with the modern logo that matches the rest of the brand offer.

I like aspects of both the 300 and 600 but certainly prefer the chunkier bezel and markings on the old than the new.

Assuming the C60 600 is here to stay, this new offer at a price point slightly below the current one certainly opens the door for a brand new Mk4 with a similar design layout (date/logo), with additional features (WR, greater Power reserve, newer design elements) at a higher established price point of about £1100+ and similar to where C60 tide was already taking them. They can then sell the Elite at £1500+, no question.

Clever stuff and perhaps a way of introducing a new tier and stealthily extending the price point whilst not offering much more. Granted they would be great value regardless in comparison with others.

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:58 pm I just ordered both black and green with the intent of returning one.

With the intent...
What if you can't decide, maybe you will have to keep both !

A1soknownas wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:06 pm Did they mention how this will co-exist with the current C60 600, if at all?

It will look a bit strange to have them on sale alongside each other until mid 2023 if that is when the Mk4 comes.

The C60 600 remains a current model alongside the C60 300.

I'm pretty sure Mike said that the Trident 4 will be coming later than mid 2023.

A1soknownas wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:08 pm

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:58 pm I just ordered both black and green with the intent of returning one.

With the intent...
What if you can't decide, maybe you will have to keep both !

Then I will simply place all my watches on a microfiber blanket and walk into the sea to die.

TheBeatles wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 5:51 pm The strap variations seem a bit random. None seem to enhance the case. In fact, for me, they detract from it.

I agree 100%. Some of those offerings just seem bizarre!

welshlad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:04 pm Yes, the screwed links have been improved since the Aquitaine and Sealander 36mm. They are now screwed on only one side, which means that you only need two hands to remove them, not three! They should be much easier to use and adjust, with much lower chance of damaging the bracelet. In other words, my advice would be not to let the screwed links put you off.

Does this mean the improved design will likely be standardized across all lines, including those that initially shipped with double screwed links?

jkbarnes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:26 pm
Does this mean the improved design will likely be standardized across all lines, including those that initially shipped with double screwed links?

In one word; yes.

The bracelet on the Trident Pro 300, with single ended screws (two hands, one screwdriver), is an upgraded "Version 2.0" to the twin screwed links bracelet, first seen on the C65 Aquitaine.

There will be a rolling change of it, the Version 2.0 bracelet, on other existing models.

There is a tolerance of 0.03mm (0.03mm) on the screws being flush with the sided of the links. Mike France advocated it is the 2nd best bracelet on the market and better than Tudor.

What of those people with the existing twin screw (Version 1.0) bracelet? Don't ask; I don't know.

Guy

A1soknownas wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:06 pm Did they mention how this will co-exist with the current C60 600, if at all?

This article from the new Loupe explains they will co-exist together.

https://www.christopherward.com/loupe-m ... -you-think

"From this point on, Trident should be considered a two-tier line of watches, with the thicker, heavier, slightly more expensive (and more capable) C60 Trident Pro 600– plus assorted other full-fat Tridents – near the top, and the new, slimmer, slightly cheaper Trident Pro 300 just beneath.

The list of changes made for Pro 300 may sound insignificant, but add up to far more than the sum of their parts. Many are a result of CW’s increasing cooperation with the independent Christopher Ward forum, now consulted on new models much earlier than before."

TheBeatles wrote:I like the green 42mm as I don’t have a green in my collection, but don’t fancy the screw links.

Would’ve been a no brainer with collar/pin.

The strap variations seem a bit random. None seem to enhance the case. In fact, for me, they detract from it.

Not sure what to do!!!, probably dither then pass.

Agree on the straps. I was looking at the green 42 like you and couldn't stomach any of the straps they paired with it.

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Sounds silly but this release has made me even more interested in the mk4 600 pro release in a couple of years time (moved to sept 2024 I think?)

Many of the “improvements” I was looking for are in the 300 line but I’m not liking the new bezel, much prefer the current 600 pro bezel, which I own.

My reasoning for the excitement for the mk4 is the “minor” tweak type improvements are all in this release, which means there will need to be something bigger in the mk4.

My money is on a better movement. Perhaps the SW330-2 or maybe something better? Plus looking forward to an evolution of the dial and case design too.

welshlad wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:16 pm

A1soknownas wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:06 pm Did they mention how this will co-exist with the current C60 600, if at all?

It will look a bit strange to have them on sale alongside each other until mid 2023 if that is when the Mk4 comes.

The C60 600 remains a current model alongside the C60 300.

I'm pretty sure Mike said that the Trident 4 will be coming later than mid 2023.

On the CWE chat he said it will be around 20 months time / early 2024.

NationOfLaws wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:46 pm

Internaut wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:41 pm My thoughts on this one? If I were buying a dive watch today, I'd go for one of these. However, current generation Trident 600 owners needn't cry into their beer (though die hard collectors will surely buy a 300 anyway). In terms of diving depth, has anyone here taken a CW watch close to 300, let along 600? I just like it that I have something that can withstand the worst that Manchester could possibly throw at it.

Just a thought though. I bought the 38mm Trident Pro 600 because it would look better on my skinny wrist. I do wonder if the 40mm Trident 300 would wear as well thanks to its slimmer profile.

The deepest scuba dive ever was 393 meters. I have a feeling nobody on this forum is hitting that.

I had to Google that one:

“ The open-sea diving depth record was achieved in 1988 by a team of Comex divers who performed pipeline connection exercises at a depth of 534 metres (1,752 ft) in the Mediterranean Sea as part of the Hydra 8 programme.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_di ... 0programme.

I have no idea what the practicalities of wearing a watch externally, at that depth, would be.

This is my first forum post since 2010!

I've been holding back buying a new watch for months awaiting any news of a new Trident. I love the look of the C60 300 green dial/bezel with a steel bracelet but there are two things that come as a bit of a disappointment:

1) The 38 hour reserve is not long enough. I'd gladly pay more for something approaching 60 hours or weekend-proof. Improving the 38 hour power reserve seemed to be the most requested feature from forum members in the original thread.
2) No COSC version

I would also have liked the option of a black face and coloured bezel like the C60 300 range from 5 or 6 years ago.
Quartz has been mentioned a couple of times. Compared to the automatic 300 on offer I would instantly buy a quartz version of the new 300.

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:11 pm

golfjunky wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:08 pm

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:48 pm

Why is a display caseback a deal breaker? I mean, no one is forcing you to take it off and look at the underside of the case??? I don't see the harm, especially since it doesn't appear that is increases the thickness of the watch.

As for a COSC version, I do agree that would be nice. But for $850 that's a good enough movement for me. My Atoll is at +8.2 s/d which is excellent for a <$600 watch.

I would suspect it is because it’s a cheap movement that is not worth showing off. Imo it’s a gimmick for those who are just coming into the world of watches.

OK but I'm still not understanding what the harm is? On your wrist it can't be seen. What is the downside vs a closed case back? I agree that it's not the move beautiful movement in the world, but is still fun to look at and more interesting than a steel plate.

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:11 pm

golfjunky wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:08 pm

MichaelMD wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:48 pm

Why is a display caseback a deal breaker? I mean, no one is forcing you to take it off and look at the underside of the case??? I don't see the harm, especially since it doesn't appear that is increases the thickness of the watch.

As for a COSC version, I do agree that would be nice. But for $850 that's a good enough movement for me. My Atoll is at +8.2 s/d which is excellent for a <$600 watch.

I would suspect it is because it’s a cheap movement that is not worth showing off. Imo it’s a gimmick for those who are just coming into the world of watches.

OK but I'm still not understanding what the harm is? On your wrist it can't be seen. What is the downside vs a closed case back? I agree that it's not the move beautiful movement in the world, but is still fun to look at and more interesting than a steel plate.

It is a personal preference. CW used to make nice solid decorated casebacks - the trident printed on them with patterning, for example. The display casebacks CW did make had more interesting and better decorated movements. Nowadays, everything has a display caseback showing a standard Sw200. Sw200 is a reliable workhorse but it is a basic movement with not much in the way of decoration or much of interest to look at. I think a dive watch in particular is better suited to a solid cashback. It is supposed to be a tool watch after all.

A solid decorated caseback can help distinguish between watches in the different ranges. I have an Aquitaine with an sw200 display case back. Do I want another Sw200 display caseback? To go with all my other sw200 casebacks? Me personally, no. Too samey. Both defined and dominated by display Sw200. With solid and preferably different case backs, the SW200 movement is less prominent and the Aquitaine and the Trident Pro 300 are more defined as separate, different watches from different ranges.

It isn't just CW, everyone seems to be doing display casebacks. I look at watch brands such as Omega and I think a lot of their display casebacks just don't look very good. In my opinion if you are using a display caseback you have to really do something with the movement otherwise it just looks like a half-finished watch. Recently, every new CW watch has the same sw200 display case back. They all look the same. I would like to see some new watches with solid casebacks and also with the in-house movement. I would rather pay more for something more interesting. CW seem to be aiming for value for money, which is fine, but I would like to see some options for those who want something different from what they already have. Every watch is starting to appear samey.

As an aside, another fashion I absolutely loathe is see-through watches. The sooner this fashion passes into the dustbin of history the better, in my opinion. Why doesn't CW not make some patterned dials or try a Grand Seiko snowflake or bark or cherry blossom style dial. Or a Rolex style palm dial or some variation or other.

As for COSC, it is good enough timekeeping for me and well worth the extra £100. I can wear a COSC watch everyday and forget about it. Non-COSC can vary but for me need adjusting every few days (at least). Just not quite accurate enough and an annoyance. Depends how important the correct time is for you.

I just hope the next model after this one is not another display caseback sw200 watch.