Love everything about these. Cool materials. Cool dials. The case is incredible. The indices complement the Swish flag beautifully. This is CW being true to itself.

nbg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:05 pm

VelvetThunder wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:38 pm

willg wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:22 pm Oof, tough crowd. To the CW team members, try not to let it get to you. This is a sweet looking watch! Personally, I’m a huge fan of a watch that goes hard on lume. I use my BB58 as a benchmark and this looks like it will easily beat.

So much about this watch is incredible. I think I wish we had a date like the 300, but I understand the appeal of a cleaner dial.

COSC is key. No bigger turn off than a watch that you can’t really rely on after a week of wearing.

The dials and hands are different and cool! Pelagos looks similarly “cheap” but that’s the point. It’s not a cheap design to produce and who cares if it’s a metal hand?

I’m pretty sure I’ll buy this eventually, and I bet in person it’s going to be a knock out. I’ll never forget when I tried on the c300 for the first time and was shocked by how nice it was.

After going back and forth and looking and reading through comments I'm realizing that I disagree with most people's opinions and I really love this watch.

It's the size and lack of date that kill it for me. I wear divers because they look cool and they're big, just like me...
(big and cool )

That being said I'm sure I'll pick one up NN (because I have no doubt someone will buy, and return immediately) and for now I'll finally pull the trigger on the Blue Bronze 300

If someone buys and returns it immediately it will not be sold as a NN…

It will be sold as a full priced new watch.

I.e. no different to trying on a watch in a bricks and mortar AD.

Neil

Noted, I may just have to bite the bullet and scoop one up. If it's not a fit then I'll utilize the return window

Well, I knew that I wouldn’t be buying this when I understood it was a dive watch. That was me off the hook. When I first saw the teaser I thought, “Ayup, Minas Morgul”.


Lume is not essential to me. I don’t mind a touch of it but I like it to be subtle. I don’t think subtle was in the lexicon when this was designed. I’m sure it will be popular.

There's a lot for me to love about this watch:

1. Titanium
2. Nearly perfect dimensions - slightly large dial but with reasonable lug-to-lug, thin lightcatcher case
3. COSC
4. C60 Trident GMT 300 style bezel
5. Interesting dial texture

...but the indices and hands are going to need grow on me a bit more. I'd also prefer to have a date complication, but it's not a deal breaker. If it were a mm larger it would be at the edge of my preferred max size dimension, but I certainly wouldn't mind if it were 1mm smaller. The other challenging spot is the cost - I think pricing is extra tricky right now for CW as they work to continue to elevate their profile, but it's getting harder for me to say they're unmatched value for money at this price point for this watch. If it were 10 - 15% lower cost I think I could say that.

All in all a strong release I think, makes a bit of a statement and it's likely polarizing, which is probably the right thing at this moment - is it better for consumers to love it or hate it or for them all to be generally ho-hum about it? I think the former.

That said, the recent C60 Trident GMT 300 was the best release of the year for me, love the design language of the pre-GMT line and have always had a penchant for the GMT complication. I haven't picked one up yet, but it's next in the queue, and maybe as a bit more time passes the indices and hands on the Lumiere will have grown on me enough for it to grab the next spot in the queue.

timor54 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:05 am I generally quite like it but as an ‘out and out’ dive watch it’s let down by the bezel. Firstly the inner fixed ring has now gone from individual minute markers to just five minute ones, why? And more importantly the bezel really needs to have lumed minute dashes all the way round if it wants to be a serious tool watch.

There is a lot to like with this one.

Bracelet improvements.
SW300 COSC.
Dark titanium.

However, you can get too much of a good thing and I think that some restraint in using the ceramic lume compound would have been better. To me the layout looks too gimmicky.

I have never warmed to the 300 bezel in general. The timing pip should never be allowed to rest between minute marks. Either the inner ring should have been designed to move with the whole bezel or make it 60 clicks. Either one. Removing the minute markers from the steel ring is an improvement to me but the outer bezel is a miss for me too. I have never liked that style of bezel with no minute marks. I like a fully graduated bezel best. The bezel on my Ombré is really good.

I will be interested to see how this offering evolves.

More exciting to me is the teaser in the new Loupe for a movement with a free sprung balance.

The image of the blue variant is half a second ahead of black and orange. Just thought I'd share this observation as I can't unsee it now

Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:36 pm Well, I knew that I wouldn’t be buying this when I understood it was a dive watch. That was me off the hook. When I first saw the teaser I thought, “Ayup, Minas Morgul”.



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Lume is not essential to me. I don’t mind a touch of it but I like it to be subtle. I don’t think subtle was in the lexicon when this was designed. I’m sure it will be popular.

Looks rather like the fortress of solitude.

I saw a picture of a bridge the other day on TV that reminded me of LOTR, but I just can't remember where it was.

I've remembered now. It was somewhere in the tour of Spain, La Vuelta. I'll look through all of my recordings and see if I can find it.

I have been tempted and placed an order. I think the slight dichotomy of a slimmer case with a more 'out there' lume and dial is an interesting one and I suspect for that reason it's a slightly marmite design.

Definite Tudor Pelagos vibes

The more I look into this the more tempted I´m. Sure like other said, it could be a bit smaller...but then again U50 is in the same ballpark so is Pelagos 39. I know for certain that U50 is wearable on my skinny wrist (6.5") so this should be as well. CW actually made this a bit thinner than U50 which is remarkable.
Damn would like to see how this wears on ppl with a bit smaller wrist before pulling the trigger

TheArmoursmith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:33 pm Definite Tudor Pelagos vibes

Others have said the same, either as a compliment or a dig, but I’d take it as a compliment either way.

VFM? I don’t know of much out there with a similar spec sheet for less or the same price. Considering all that you get with the package, it’s a solid buy. I need to see if it fits, as this could be my next watch…

MarkingTime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:43 pm

TheArmoursmith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:33 pm Definite Tudor Pelagos vibes

Others have said the same, either as a compliment or a dig, but I’d take it as a compliment either way.

VFM? I don’t know of much out there with a similar spec sheet for less or the same price. Considering all that you get with the package, it’s a solid buy. I need to see if it fits, as this could be my next watch…

They did it way better as Pelagos 39 where lume pips are more flat unlike in Pelagos. CW has those pronounced pips to make it stand out vs flat on pelagos which is way better executed imo.

MarkingTime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:43 pm

TheArmoursmith wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:33 pm Definite Tudor Pelagos vibes

Others have said the same, either as a compliment or a dig, but I’d take it as a compliment either way.

VFM? I don’t know of much out there with a similar spec sheet for less or the same price. Considering all that you get with the package, it’s a solid buy. I need to see if it fits, as this could be my next watch…

The Delma Shell Star is quite similar and drops the COSC spec for 500 quid.

MarkingTime wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:43 pm Others have said the same, either as a compliment or a dig, but I’d take it as a compliment either way.

I meant it as a compliment. I actually prefer the CW: I'm not a fan of the Tudor's hands, the CW is a lot bolder in that respect, and I prefer the styling on the CW's dial. I also prefer the CW's slimmer-looking bezel.

bananapants wrote: ↑Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:48 pm There's a lot for me to love about this watch:

1. Titanium
2. Nearly perfect dimensions - slightly large dial but with reasonable lug-to-lug, thin lightcatcher case
3. COSC
4. C60 Trident GMT 300 style bezel
5. Interesting dial texture

...but the indices and hands are going to need grow on me a bit more. I'd also prefer to have a date complication, but it's not a deal breaker. If it were a mm larger it would be at the edge of my preferred max size dimension, but I certainly wouldn't mind if it were 1mm smaller. The other challenging spot is the cost - I think pricing is extra tricky right now for CW as they work to continue to elevate their profile, but it's getting harder for me to say they're unmatched value for money at this price point for this watch. If it were 10 - 15% lower cost I think I could say that.

This is pretty much where I'm all. There are a ton of things I like about this watch including what is mentioned above. I also love the 4mm taper of the bracelet and the 6mm of sliding micro adjust in the clasp. The braclet is basically perfect, at least spec-wise. The case looks very good and 41mm x 10.8mm is just about perfect for a bracelet model. Not sure how fond I am of the new crown guards. I think I sort of prefer the more graceful look on the current Trident 300s. The lume is obviously spectacular, but creates sort of a plastiky look to the indices that I'm going to have to get used to. The dial itself will also take some getting used to with the grainy look. Will probably have to see it to appreciate it.

Which brings us to the price. Delivered to me in the States I'm looking at nearly $2,700 which is a good chunk of change. That's over double what I paid for my current bronze C60 Trident 300. Are the upgrades worth double the price ... or even more compared with the stainless versions? I'm not sure. I may order one and simply return if I don't love it. But doing so means I'm out $163 in customs fees which is a lot to pay just to look at a watch and send it back. I'll have to be convinced a little more by some YT vids and incoming threads here. Definitely interested however and certainly may pick one up eventually. The gray model is the stand out for me. Love the monochromatic look on this watch.