Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:41 pm

rkovars wrote:Recorded sales in the Archive have been soft. sales

To be fair numbers have been low. We will have to give it a few months to see where it settles.

Soft? . . Only c. 20% down from RRP.

That's pretty reasonable, isn't it?

Also, numbers of resales are perhaps low, as people who've bought realise they have a great watch and are hanging onto it.

Guy

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That is an average though. Which would mean that some went for much lower. Another factor is the wide delta between strap and bracelet. That would be a tick in your column Guy (the delta is $425 which is significant enough to skew the average). $1600 or $1700 on the strap model would be a good turnaround. Not so much on bracelet.

The low number of sales could also mean that sales volume has been lower than other models. I think this could be the price. Not that the price is wrong or bad, just that $2.5k is more of a commitment so people would be unwilling to take a flyer to see if they like it. That would lower secondary sales as people who purchased are more certain that they would keep it.

I'm not surprised that it didn't sell in massive numbers. It's not that there is anything wrong with the Lumiere at all, I'd say the opposite in fact. It's a bold design that takes time to sleep into the public buying subconscious.
I think it's just that CW have created something different for the brand and genuinely puts itself in higher company against Tudors etc. That's always going to be a tough sell to the uninitiated. .
Now that they've made their mark and shown their intentions while making a high quality product, I can see a 2nd gen with a few tweaks and additional colours grabbing a much bigger market share.
This was just a first run at that particular slot in the market and I am sure that subsequent models in or above that price point will do better, especially as the bel canto and twelve x have really proved CW are still brilliant value even in a higher tier.
Just my thoughts.

Pat.

Redpat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 06, 2025 4:01 pm I'm not surprised that it didn't sell in massive numbers.

To be clear, I am not saying it did, as I don't know. All I am saying is that the possibility exists with some possible reasoning.

@rkovars , sorry, I know that's not what you were saying.
I was just shooting the breeze, I personally was just not expecting it to be a massive instant hit at launch as although it's a unique design that I like, it was quite a departure from the traditional CW aesthetic and price point.

Pat

Would any Lumiere owners care to elaborate on both the strength and duration of the lume? I’m considering a purchase but can find very little anecdotal info on how long the lume actually glows for. I’m aware that initial glow will dissipate but keen to know if the X1 Globolight is still readable in a dark bedroom after a 6-7 hour sleep. I’m an early riser so it’s important to me to be able to quickly gauge the time without waking up my wife (probably TMI!). I’m also eyeing the new Aera Field watches that use the same Globolight solid lume. I’m not generally a fan of dive watches but the think I can accept the thinner matt bezel on the Lumiere. All experiences with the lume (brightness/duration) appreciated.

I don’t have it yet, but I guess it will last the entire night, all of my normal Superluminova do

Bangorzane wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:02 pm Would any Lumiere owners care to elaborate on both the strength and duration of the lume? I’m considering a purchase but can find very little anecdotal info on how long the lume actually glows for. I’m aware that initial glow will dissipate but keen to know if the X1 Globolight is still readable in a dark bedroom after a 6-7 hour sleep. I’m an early riser so it’s important to me to be able to quickly gauge the time without waking up my wife (probably TMI!). I’m also eyeing the new Aera Field watches that use the same Globolight solid lume. I’m not generally a fan of dive watches but the think I can accept the thinner matt bezel on the Lumiere. All experiences with the lume (brightness/duration) appreciated.

Long, I can see it in the morning but without glasses I cant really read the watch
So far the best lume I´ve seen. There was vid on YT about it https://youtu.be/D6-yUFxJGlI?si=yDU4LJoz3IU9UV59

Rehjer1980 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:07 am I don’t have it yet, but I guess it will last the entire night, all of my normal Superluminova do

I'd be very interested to see the 6/8/10 hour performance on a Lumiere.

I tried to record the performance of my Trident Pro 300, but sadly my phone wouldn't actually pick up the image with any clarity despite me being able to read the time very clearly.

For reference, charged with UV at 2130:
Then waking up at 0630 in a pitch black room with blackout blinds: (could actually read the time very clearly here)
I tried to do similar with some other watches, but there wasn't enough visible light for the phone to pick up anything at all.

I can only imagine if the Lumiere is better, then it must be very impressive!

Thanks for the replies. It's a tricky one, isn't it. Not sure camera captures are reliable as so much depends on the human eye adjusting to darkness. So far, nothing has beaten my Vaer C5 Field watch (but I have an SWC Bunker coming that threatens to do so). 'X1' bodes well for duration of any colour of Super Luminova. Brightness determined by the paint colour with C3 > BGW9 > C1 / BL. Layering and size/number of lume plots also a big factor. In which case, I guess I won't be disappointed with the Lumiere.

Nick66 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:57 pm

Rehjer1980 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:07 am I don’t have it yet, but I guess it will last the entire night, all of my normal Superluminova do

I'd be very interested to see the 6/8/10 hour performance on a Lumiere.

I tried to record the performance of my Trident Pro 300, but sadly my phone wouldn't actually pick up the image with any clarity despite me being able to read the time very clearly.

For reference, charged with UV at 2130:

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Then waking up at 0630 in a pitch black room with blackout blinds: (could actually read the time very clearly here)

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I tried to do similar with some other watches, but there wasn't enough visible light for the phone to pick up anything at all.

I can only imagine if the Lumiere is better, then it must be very impressive!

Jody on JOMW does a 20 minute video test. He reckons if you can see the video after 20 minutes it's good for several hours in real life. I think that's what you're finding.