I got my first CW watch, a c65 dune bronze.
And I like it overall, great looking watch with very nice finishing and keep accurate time so far . So yeah a lot to like.
But there is one thing that bothers me, and I wonder if it’s just me,and that is the fact that you can see the red crown warning even if the crown is fully screwed down.
I have done some research and it’s seems to be a recurring issue with CW watches that no one seems to talk about.
Adding some pictures from the web where you can slightly but clearly see the red warning under the crown when the crown is closed.
Am I crazy that it bothers me?





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I didn't know it is / was an issue and certainly don't recall it being mentioned here before.

In the three pictures you've found, the amount of the red collar to the crown that can be seen appears to be the same in each photo. I'd take it as a standard / normal feature.

Moreover, if you look at these three photos of the C65 Dune, all taken directly from CW's website (cropped a bit) you can see a sliver of red between the crown and the case.







To my mind, it's normal, you should rest easy and enjoy your watch.

Guy

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Same with my white sand Dune.
I don’t really class it as an ‘issue’ in that CW build their watches so well that I don’t think this will be a ‘fault’ occurring at random in a certain percentage of the watches because of poor manufacturing. My assumption is that they all look like this.
That doesn’t answer your question though. I never saw the feature as being anything other than a quirky addition to the design. I wouldn’t rely on visuals to check that my crown is properly seated - I’d only go on feel. But if it’s something that bugs you then it’s something that bugs you.

Others will no doubt chime in with their thoughts and that might help settle your thinking one way or another. Can you forgive based on how you feel about the watch in general?

It’s just bothers me because the purpose of the red is warn the wearer that the crown is not fully closed, it’s a cool feature that can be seen in many omegas for example. But if you see the red warning even the crown is fully closed, it just doesn’t make sense and that’s what bothers me.

Just to clarify, it’s not a huge deal, it just that one thing, that slightly annoy me.


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I’m with the OP. If this is a feature, it’s an odd one, misleading and I think unhelpful.

I’ve seen red crown tubes before, designed to warn the wearer that the crown isn’t fully screwed in. Who in their right mind would design a red crown tube as a cosmetic only feature?

I suggest @galwpsite should contact customer services to confirm that this is indeed “by design” and is safe. It very well may well be, but it’s daft.

0uatiOW wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:45 am I’m with the OP. If this is a feature, it’s an odd one, misleading and I think unhelpful.

I’ve seen red crown tubes before, designed to warn the wearer that the crown isn’t fully screwed in. Who in their right mind would design a red crown tube as a cosmetic only feature?

I suggest @galwpsite should contact customer services to confirm that this is indeed “by design” and is safe. It very well may well be, but it’s daft.

Lawrence wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:15 am

0uatiOW wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:45 am I’m with the OP. If this is a feature, it’s an odd one, misleading and I think unhelpful.

I’ve seen red crown tubes before, designed to warn the wearer that the crown isn’t fully screwed in. Who in their right mind would design a red crown tube as a cosmetic only feature?

I suggest @galwpsite should contact customer services to confirm that this is indeed “by design” and is safe. It very well may well be, but it’s daft.

I knew I'd seen it somewhere else.
It is quite strange, that this has not been discussed before, I'm off to the CWOTD thread now, to spot some examples

Regards Steve

I thought I had a watch with the "coloured collar: it turns out it's an "I had musta had in the past....".

This is completely a first world problem for me; I can see the question if the watch is new to you and unknown - is mine okay? Otherwise a little bit of colour in a world of light catcher cases with highly polished crown guards? I'd quite like it.

tikkathree wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:04 am
This is completely a first world problem for me;

Ah but since this is a watch forum it’s genuinely worth a good natter about. It’s the sort of detail that vexes all of us - and worthy of a thread. Saying this without any sarcasm in case I come across that way

missF wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:09 am

tikkathree wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:04 am
This is completely a first world problem for me;

Ah but since this is a watch forum it’s genuinely worth a good natter about. It’s the sort of detail that vexes all of us - and worthy of a thread. Saying this without any sarcasm in case I come across that way

The colour of the collar becomes absolutely critical to successful COSC performance.

I was thinking earlier, would I want the colour to match some aspect of the dial furniture like an orange sweep second hand? Would I want there to be a "house" colour to the collar, maybe the BC blue in thebanner of this forum? Would I want a bicolour collar with an aesthetically pleasing always visible element and an alarm colour for when the crown is not correctly screwed home?

But I don't have such a collar so my questions are predicated on what if: you missF have the jump on me here so let's put aside all thoughts of sarcasm/irony/vexation and tell me what you think

From the empirical evidence afforded by the website photos it would appear to be completely normal. Unless, that is, the man in the beige togs has left all his crowns unscrewed.

However, it is perhaps understandably a little discombobulating to the uninitiated. It’s rather like when you get a new car and some weird little warning light appears in the form of a mystical icon. By the time you’ve torn the manual part to find out what it is (or spent three hours on an unnavigable website) it has disappeared and you will never see it again.

You will learn to unsee it – unless, of course, you can’t.

tikkathree wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:36 am But I don't have such a collar so my questions are predicated on what if: you missF have the jump on me here so let's put aside all thoughts of sarcasm/irony/vexation and tell me what you think

If I was buying a Patek-price watch it would definitely bother me more. What seems important to me is - what was the intention of the designer - perhaps it was designed so that there is a sliver of colour left visible when the crown is seated, which expands as the crown is unscrewed. That could be true. Or maybe it was a small lapse during the design process. Something that would have cost too much to go back and change. Or something that couldn’t be overcome at this price point.

As I said, the OP makes a totally valid observation and these things are worth overthinking in my mind (again - not being sarcastic, I love overthinking ).

The last thing I think is that I likely let a lot of these wee vexes pass me by. For different reasons. We all have the things we see and can’t unsee. Next time I wear my Dune I’ll definitely spot it - I suppose I’ll know what my real opinion is then

It's a design thing, isn't it. If you put a perpendicular cylinder against a curved surface, it will be flush in the centre, but not at the edge. If the cylinder is slightly long, it will not be flush anywhere.

So in order to avoid these "false positives", the length of the cylinder, ie the crown stem, needs to be machined to very close tolerances, and the coloured area probably changed slightly to prevent it being visible when the crown is properly screwed in.

I recall reading some criticism of Tudor’s coloured tubes. Did they discontinue them?

Red, being a colour of warning (my phone offers up this emoticon ) is used most appropriately in the brilliant Magrette Kara, which might be why I associate it with an unscrewed crown rather thank as a piece of design pzazz.

“CROWN: Screw down crown with red safety alert collar”

0uatiOW wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:28 am I recall reading some criticism of Tudor’s coloured tubes. Did they discontinue them?

Yes when when Tudor premiered their new 79030 series. There no longer was a coloured anodised aluminium crown tube matched to the bezel as seen on the early 79220. This was a design feature and yes there was some criticism.