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nbg wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:30 pm
jkbarnes wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:18 pm With the latest real world pics, this watch is really growing on me. Does anyone else think of it as a dressy watch? To me it reads dressy because of the flash factor. I mean that as a good thing. I’m looking forward to seeing this in 36mm.
Drew I think the word dressy means different things to different people.

The original concept of the genre was “luxury sports watch” - something to be worn as an alternative to a dress watch and could be worn more widely.

I doubt many owners of the original icons wore them as anything other than as a dressy watch, either socially or at work with a suit.

I certainly see the twelve as more glitzy than the Sealander range, particularly the GMT versions that I very much regard as tool watches. The chances of me wearing a Sealander GMT to a nice restaurant are virtually zero, however once I end up buying a twelve I can envisage wearing it to a good restaurant.

I was going to buy a twelve before my next trip away and subject it to hiking, wild swimming, pubs and posh restaurants. The only problem is I keep changing my mind on which one to buy.

I was initially all in with the blue titanium, but think that was more because it was titanium than the colour of the dial. The reality is I would prefer a version that won’t stand out across a room. I am now thinking more about the white/silver or grey.

Or maybe I just wait to see if they end up releasing normal colour dials in titanium.

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I think some normal colours in titanium are important rather than just the novelty colours that could get tired.
The 36 might gain some traction as well when released
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These real-world pics from our contributors have been very enlightening. Such good folk. This is a good place.

So what do I think that I have learned, given I have a 16cm/6.3" wrist? 15,000kms from the source I've learned to obsess about certain things :)
The outside bracelet measurement 51.3mm is the same as my Direnzo Eclipse diver which is fine but it wouldn't want to be so much as part of a mm more. It is a tick more than that measurement on my Spring Drive on bracelet - which I now wear on straps because it wears and looks better that way.

I expect that The Twelve would suit me better on rubber strap BUT there's the 'how many holes?' thing that crops up for smaller wrists. My only CW reference is a hybrid strap I have for my C65 Trident Diver: that one is fine but a completely different thing to this one, and there's not exactly the option of buying after-market with this...

I'm on the same page as @jkbarnes here. I think it's a watch that should have a bit of 'presence' on wrist. 36mm? Dunno. I really don't. Probably maybe.
Here's a pic of my Brew Metric which is a 36. A bit of inexpensive (PVD) gold I bought for a bit of fun (that's the idea of all this isn't it?) and fun it is.
Genuinely raises eyebrows at the supermarket.
Feels a bit small if I've been wearing a 40 to work during the day but within minutes the perspective normalises.

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Oh, just remembered, I do have the #Tide CW strap as well which fits fine...worth checking though I guess :)
It HAS been an issue with certain straps, both OEM and aftermarket.
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sproughton wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:38 pm
Hicksmat wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:52 pm This watch needs a darker dial for legibility
The dial texture is like a textured painted ceiling
I can confirm that, so far, the white/silver is 100% legible when a) in bright sunshine, b) looking at it from an angle, and c) in the back of a pretty dark cab.

Can't speak for the light blue but I imagine it's just as good.

But I think "the Artex" is far catchier than "the Twelve".

Edit: spelling
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sproughton wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:35 pm
Leon O wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:21 pm Can someone confirm whether or not the 12 bracelet reflects a lot of light.
It reflects loads of light. There's a video early on in this thread that shows the titanium bracelet is much subtler when it comes to how it plays with the light.
I went back to the video and saw that the 12's bracelet reflects a lot of light. I am still pleased with the PRX and do not see myself "upgrading" to the 12.

The 12 Ti is an great option for CW fans seeking a watch with an integrated bracelet.
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These dials are certainly attention grabbers. Very pretty.
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sproughton wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:38 pm I can confirm that, so far, the white/silver is 100% legible when a) in bright sunshine, b) looking at it from an angle, and c) in the back of a pretty dark cab.

Can't speak for the light blue but I imagine it's just as good.

But I think "the Artex" is far catchier than "the Twelve".

Edit: spelling
Good to hear that as expected it is legible. Now I don’t have 20:20 vision but find the whole “light dial won’t be legible” line a bit weird.

Artex? Now you could be on to something there!

I am now wondering if calling it an Antartex would work, or whether that is a step too far? :D

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@nbg

You've been watching too much of Richard Osman's 'House of Games', Neil. :wink: :wink:

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Great photos guys, nice to see it in real life. Confirms it is not for me but I am sure those who get it will enjoy it. Now, back on to BC deliberations....
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nbg wrote:
missF wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 6:34 am
asqwerth wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:55 am Here is my imagined scenario: (take it with a pinch of salt) ...
Brilliant post. You kind of demonstrate well that anyone wanting to design an integrated bracelet sports watch in 2023 is operating with very little elbow room. But I don’t see any difference to any other watch being designed by any other manufacturer, (everything in the watch world has already been done) so I’m not sure why some are feeling fizzy and wanting to apply the ‘homage’ word...

Here’s another scenario:
1. We’re going to design a completely original diver...
2. :escape:

Anyway, I love your design meeting asqwerth, and your thoughts on the whole thing. I’m looking forward to plenty more IRL pics before I consider buying :thumbup:
Original dive watch? :)

Well it seems to me even Rolex tried that and failed! :lol:

However the folk at Blancpain managed it…

Then everyone else followed.

Mind you I have found what looks to me an original take on the integrated sports watch…
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Exactly. There is also the Moser and the Urban Jürgensen sports models. It is possible to achieve an original design.

But of course it might be more commercially interesting to don’t go too far down a new path. Most non-WIS buyers probably takes comfort in similarity to well known high-end models.
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I have to say, CW fulfilled the initial orders very quickly, didn't they. :D
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nathanclarinet wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:36 am Great photos guys, nice to see it in real life. Confirms it is not for me but I am sure those who get it will enjoy it. Now, back on to BC deliberations....
My thoughts too.
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I have to say, I’ve been thinking about what they should call the dial texturing. I liked the Mayan pyramids, not so keen on the idea of Artex, but I think @asqwerth nailed it with “Ziggurat”.

“It features a Ziggurat dial”…sounds good.
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:08 pm I have to say, I’ve been thinking about what they should call the dial texturing. I liked the Mayan pyramids, not so keen on the idea of Artex, but I think @asqwerth nailed it with “Ziggurat”.

“It features a Ziggurat dial”…sounds good.
How about "Swish Mountains or Peaks"

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magicman wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:31 pm
Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:08 pm I have to say, I’ve been thinking about what they should call the dial texturing. I liked the Mayan pyramids, not so keen on the idea of Artex, but I think @asqwerth nailed it with “Ziggurat”.

“It features a Ziggurat dial”…sounds good.
How about "Swish Mountains or Peaks"

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