Some Questions About QC on my Trident Pro 300 - Spots on Dial

Speedtime · Post by **Speedtime** » Sun Dec 29, 2024 7:22 pm

Hi All,

I recently posted a review of my C60 Trident Pro 300, so I hope this is okay that I'm posting this here in this forum as this is a separate topic.

The inner bezel ring is slightly misaligned at 6:00 with the "dot" being a smidge to the right. Seems like a pretty common issue, as others have posted about the exact same thing several times:

general-discussion/trident-pro-300-stee ... 60704.html
general-discussion/inner-steel-ring-pro ... 62023.html

However, mine isn't that bad so I figured I'd just live with it (see pics).

However, I noticed that the dial has some spots/marks on it (see pics). One that is between the 10:00 and 11:00 indices that looks like a moisture/water mark, and another between the 7:00 and 8:00 that looks like a tool mark. They're not on the crystal, they're not reflections, they are very clearly on the dial itself.

Is this normal? It's enough to bother me but I'm not sure what to do. I've already sized and worn the watch a few times.

MarkingTime · Post by **MarkingTime** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:00 am

The bezel ring marker misalignment is par for the course and doesn't look to be too bad on your watch. I guess it's what to expect, so either accept to live with it or send it back for a refund and forget about the watch. The problem won't disappear until the design does.

If you can see a problem with the dial, then it needs to go back for replacement.

Post by **Bahnstormer_vRS** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 12:44 am

@Speedtime

I appreciate your comments and analysis, but personally I'm not convinced as the 'marks on the dial' do not show up on any of the photos in your earlier review.

However, it's not about what I think. You've got the watch, and if you're not happy then you should contact CW, details in the How to . . . . topic on here, and ask them to look at it.

That you have sized and worn the watch should not affect the situation as you are asking CW to look at a potential 'manufacturing defect'.

Guy

Speedtime · Post by **Speedtime** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:15 am

Yea the bezel ring alignment I think I could probably live with. It's not great, I've seen plenty online that have good alignment, but it's a bug of the design that just is what it is.

@Bahnstormer_vRS - They don't show in the pictures in my earlier review. But they are definitely there. I took a short video that shows how they appear in the lighting. It's noticeable enough to catch my eye in regular lighting, but it's not really capture-able from the angles I have in my review. Ignore the piece of lint above the hour hand, I think that's just on the outside of the crystal.

https://imgur.com/a/ykvAC2G

Unfortunately it is enough to bother me. I very briefly took a look at a few of my other watches to see if they had any spots or anything on the dial like this - a few Seiko divers, a Glycine, a Hamilton, a Monta, a Raymond Weil, a cheapie "Rodina SS" knockoff, etc. - didn't see anything similar to this.

I recognize that I'm being picky and I'll be the first to admit that I'm a notorious moaner about this stuff. But still, at this price, I think it's enough to detract from how much I otherwise like the watch.

Post by **Amor Vincit Omnia** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:50 am

It sounds like something you need to take up with CW using the addresses in the link Guy @Bahnstormer_vRS provided.

I’m slightly surprised you didn’t mention the spots in your initial review where you said you had inspected the dial closely and were waxing lyrical about it.

Post by **rkovars** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:25 pm

Speedtime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:15 am Yea the bezel ring alignment I think I could probably live with. It's not great, I've seen plenty online that have good alignment, but it's a bug of the design that just is what it is.

@Bahnstormer_vRS - They don't show in the pictures in my earlier review. But they are definitely there. I took a short video that shows how they appear in the lighting. It's noticeable enough to catch my eye in regular lighting, but it's not really capture-able from the angles I have in my review. Ignore the piece of lint above the hour hand, I think that's just on the outside of the crystal.

https://imgur.com/a/ykvAC2G

Unfortunately it is enough to bother me. I very briefly took a look at a few of my other watches to see if they had any spots or anything on the dial like this - a few Seiko divers, a Glycine, a Hamilton, a Monta, a Raymond Weil, a cheapie "Rodina SS" knockoff, etc. - didn't see anything similar to this.

I recognize that I'm being picky and I'll be the first to admit that I'm a notorious moaner about this stuff. But still, at this price, I think it's enough to detract from how much I otherwise like the watch.

Actually, to me, that looks like an AR issue. There have been some reports with the AR treatment acting funky over time with the Bel Cantos (so it may not have been there the whole time). I can't imagine there is anything different between the two models when it comes to AR.

I would definitely contact CW and send them links to your video showing as much of the problems as you can.

Link to a recent thread.

Speedtime · Post by **Speedtime** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:01 pm

Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:50 am It sounds like something you need to take up with CW using the addresses in the link Guy @Bahnstormer_vRS provided.

I’m slightly surprised you didn’t mention the spots in your initial review where you said you had inspected the dial closely and were waxing lyrical about it.

I had already been corresponding with Michael Pearson and a designated service rep on the last one, I reached out to them and I’m sure they’ll get it sorted one way or another.

I don’t mean to misinterpret but I kind of feel like my motivations are being flyspecked here a bit. I think I said the dial was generally beautiful, I don’t think I ever touched on whether or not I had examined it for imperfections or what the results of such examinations were. In the end, I’m not sure it’s relevant whether I mentioned it or not, because the marks are most certainly there, as shown in photos and even a short video. When posting about imperfections many times you’ll be told something to the effect that if you look at any watch with a loupe, you’ll find something to be upset about, so I was just trying to enjoy the watch and post a review that wasn’t focused on QC issues. Unfortunately I’ve realized that these particular issues are enough to detract from my enjoyment of wearing it.

Speedtime · Post by **Speedtime** » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:06 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 5:25 pm
Speedtime wrote: ↑Mon Dec 30, 2024 4:15 am Yea the bezel ring alignment I think I could probably live with. It's not great, I've seen plenty online that have good alignment, but it's a bug of the design that just is what it is.

@Bahnstormer_vRS - They don't show in the pictures in my earlier review. But they are definitely there. I took a short video that shows how they appear in the lighting. It's noticeable enough to catch my eye in regular lighting, but it's not really capture-able from the angles I have in my review. Ignore the piece of lint above the hour hand, I think that's just on the outside of the crystal.

https://imgur.com/a/ykvAC2G

Unfortunately it is enough to bother me. I very briefly took a look at a few of my other watches to see if they had any spots or anything on the dial like this - a few Seiko divers, a Glycine, a Hamilton, a Monta, a Raymond Weil, a cheapie "Rodina SS" knockoff, etc. - didn't see anything similar to this.

I recognize that I'm being picky and I'll be the first to admit that I'm a notorious moaner about this stuff. But still, at this price, I think it's enough to detract from how much I otherwise like the watch.
Actually, to me, that looks like an AR issue. There have been some reports with the AR treatment acting funky over time with the Bel Cantos (so it may not have been there the whole time). I can't imagine there is anything different between the two models when it comes to AR.

I would definitely contact CW and send them links to your video showing as much of the problems as you can.

Link to a recent thread.

That was the first thing that came to mind but it definitely looks like it’s on the dial. The spot further down is a different shape/type than the AR type spots too. I think it’s just a bad/dirty dial

Rehjer1980 · Post by **Rehjer1980** » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:08 pm

maybe it’s thge wrong thread, but I have a question about the dials of the trident pro 300: Are the dials laquered or matte finished? I can’t really see it on the pictures

Post by **Bahnstormer_vRS** » Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:29 pm

Rehjer1980 wrote:maybe it’s thge wrong thread, but I have a question about the dials of the trident pro 300: Are the dials laquered or matte finished? I can’t really see it on the pictures

From CW's website. . . .

Guy

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Rehjer1980 · Post by **Rehjer1980** » Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:18 pm

Thanks Guy. On the 38mm pages I only see: white, black or blue, without the lacquer mention. I guess the smaller have the same dial?

Post by **Bahnstormer_vRS** » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:14 pm

Rehjer1980 wrote:Thanks Guy. On the 38mm pages I only see: white, black or blue, without the lacquer mention. I guess the smaller have the same dial?

Screenshot was taken from a 38mm white dial C60 Pro 300.

Guy

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