Seeing "The Twelve" in person - some thoughts

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Seeing "The Twelve" in person - some thoughts

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I happened to be at CW HQ on Monday as part of a trip to the UK. The wife was with me to ensure that no watches were purchased :problem:
She did say the Moonglow was cool but I don't think that was permission. :lol: :lol:

Declan was kind enough to show me some of the production versions of "The Twelve" before they were packed away to make their debut at WindUp San Francisco on Friday. I didn't ask to take pictures. I was able to see the Ti Blue on bracelet, SS white, SS light blue and SS grey on rubber strap.

The general build quality and fit and finish are excellent. CW have outdone themselves with this. The bracelet is very flexible and the butterfly clasp felt sturdy and easy to use. There are a lot of half links so a good fit shouldn't be hard to achieve. I'm normally a bracelet person but I have to say that the black rubber strap suited the grey dial SS version very well. As much as the bracelet I'd say. If I was going to buy one I'd definitely throw a rubber strap into the bag too. The bracelet shouldn't be a wrist shaver either.

They have turned the dial texture up to 11 or maybe 12 (pun intended). Unlike the snow leopard where the dial texture is pretty much invisible in real life you will be in no doubt that "The Twelve" has texture. It interacts with the light in many ways, cast shadows, gives depth and a whole lot more. Personally I think it looks better with darker colours and I wish I'd seen it on the purple but it is a great part of the watch. In some lights the sun burst effect can make the white dial look like a chess board. I don't think you'll ever get bored looking at this dial.

The indices are finely finished and need to be large to compete with the dial. The double index at twelve works very well even if it looks oversized in pictures. The hands are a welcome development of the C60/C63 hands and the hour hand is the nicest one they've done in ages. They've gone for a simple date window but the colour matched date disks are a perfect colour match.

Mike confirmed that there will be a 36mm version with different colour ways.

This is a lovely watch that's clearly been well thought out. The bezel, case and caseback all match each other and flow into the bracelet properly. And the dial, well you'll be talking about it and looking at it for ages. Well done CW.
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I didn't mention the size. The average size of watches in my collection is 42mm. I have been selling watches at 40mm and below as they are "too small" for me. I am both a heretic and a dinosaur in this regard. The 40mm "The Twelve" did not feel either too small or too large for me. It doesn't wear like a 42mm but it doesn't look or feel like a 40mm. My wrists aren't huge at 6.75 inches and I think this is a very versatile size that should suit many. The short lug tip to lug tip at, I think, 44.25mm certainly helps.
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albionphoto wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:18 pm I didn't mention the size. The average size of watches in my collection is 42mm. I have been selling watches at 40mm and below as they are "too small" for me. I am both a heretic and a dinosaur in this regard. The 40mm "The Twelve" did not feel either too small or too large for me. It doesn't wear like a 42mm but it doesn't look or feel like a 40mm. My wrists aren't huge at 6.75 inches and I think this is a very versatile size that should suit many. The short lug tip to lug tip at, I think, 44.25mm certainly helps.
Not to mention it is very thin.
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Re: Seeing "The Twelve" in person - some thoughts

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Well, I received my latest edition of The Loupe and, once again, CW manages to add insult to injury by posting a new purple dial and making it in a 40mm. I had ordered the previous 36mm “Foxglove” colored dial, was told it was coming and they gave me an estimated delivery date. After I inquired SEVERAL TIMES, I got back two emails, first one confirming the original delivery estimated date and the second one saying, sorry we oversold and you won’t be getting this watch. I had to tell them to reverse the charge on my card, it wasn’t done right away.

So, so, so disappointing…I have the C60 Trident 300 and I love it and I thought the Foxglove purple in 36mm was going to be my second CW that I would rave about. Sadly, not to be, all because it appears CW has grown too fast and hasn’t built the Customer Service infrastructure they need for the size they are now.

And now they do another purple, not as pretty as the Foxglove color, but with a gorgeous dial and make it 40mm? I guess I’ll just stop looking at CW, as I don’t feel I could justify the price point they are at now, knowing that they don’t have the Customer Service I thought they had and apparently aren’t providing after the sale service, based on online feedback. Too bad.
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@Booshmom - Welcome to the Forum / Asylum and I'm sorry that it couldn't be in more positive circumstances.

Should you wish, please feel free to contact CW Customer Service Manager, Tanya Bull at tanya.bull@christopherward.co.uk along with details of your situation; to see if there is anything she may be able to help with.

If it is any consolation, there is slated to be 36mm versions of the C12 'The Twelve' released this autumn (September) with a sporting chance of there being a purple dial version included. :wink: :wink:

Good luck.

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Booshmom wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:34 pm Well, I received my latest edition of The Loupe and, once again…

And now they do another purple, not as pretty as the Foxglove color, but with a gorgeous dial and make it 40mm? I guess I’ll just stop looking at CW, as I don’t feel I could justify the price point they are at now, knowing that they don’t have the Customer Service I thought they had and apparently aren’t providing after the sale service, based on online feedback. Too bad.
Your post is just a wee bit off topic, given the subject of the thread, don’t you think? Since you’ve taken the time to join the forum, perhaps go the small step further of starting a new thread to share your experience instead?

Shoot, given what you said in the bit I highlighted above, why even bother taking the time to register with the forum and post. Maybe just move on from CW and call it a day.
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albionphoto wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:18 pm The short lug tip to lug tip at, I think, 44.25mm certainly helps.
Exactly the same as the PRX! For me, this will likely wear fine on the strap but a little large on the bracelet. The titanium version on rubber is tempting; might wait for the smaller version.
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I generally prefer bracelets to straps but for "The Twelve" I preferred the strap option. The bracelet is great but adds too much bling to a very blingy watch. The strap tones down the dial enough to make this a much more subtle, wearable watch. Opinions will vary of course but of the watches I saw the stainless steel grey on the bracelet was my favourite by far.
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@albionphoto Thanks very much for your in-depth view of the Twelve :clap:
Much appreciated.
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As the owner of a Tissot PRX, I am a fan of the 12's design. I hope that it is another hit for Christopher Ward.
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Thanks for this insight @albionphoto it is valuable. Hands-on wins and you've been clear about how your personal preferences weigh.

So my question from your hands-on relates to the rubber strap. Does it turn down nicely? This is key. And yeah, it's less bling on strap.
I am of the noodle-wristed 16cm/6.3 inch sizing and this one is in the 'be careful' zone. A PRX on bracelet is just a bit wrong the way the bracelet end-link is, even if the L2L numbers say different. I've also tried a Constellation on strap and the thick leather doesn't turn down right although the bracelet does....

As it stands the Ti in blue on black rubber really appeals although only if it is going to fit nicely. Thanks in advance, Mark.
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Noush wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:20 am Thanks for this insight @albionphoto it is valuable. Hands-on wins and you've been clear about how your personal preferences weigh.

So my question from your hands-on relates to the rubber strap. Does it turn down nicely? This is key. And yeah, it's less bling on strap.
I am of the noodle-wristed 16cm/6.3 inch sizing and this one is in the 'be careful' zone. A PRX on bracelet is just a bit wrong the way the bracelet end-link is, even if the L2L numbers say different. I've also tried a Constellation on strap and the thick leather doesn't turn down right although the bracelet does....

As it stands the Ti in blue on black rubber really appeals although only if it is going to fit nicely. Thanks in advance, Mark.
Well there will be the 36mm later in the year...
I thought that both the strap and bracelet turned down very well. There is a male end link from the case to the strap which helps the strap immediately bend to the wrist. Like a lot of straps it is too long for the slightly less than average wrist. When I wore it to fit the tang end of the strap was distinctly visible having nearly completed a circumnavigation of my wrist. Why they make straps for the 95th percentile rather than cater properly for the average wrist and slightly larger always confounds me (if the average wrist is 7" why make them long enough for the 9 inch monstrosities...)
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On another note... CW were planning to make "The Twelve" the centrepiece of their stand at WindUp San Francisco. They will have watches to sell although they will be rationed out for each day. They were certainly planning a big stand in some way. I think Declan mentioned breeze blocks. I'd love a picture of that stand. I hope a forum member attends the show and can post a picture or two for us. I hope he's not taking the breeze blocks as part of his luggage. Well, I think he said breeze blocks.
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