So I’ve had the C63 for a few weeks now, and I absolutely love it. While it’s functioning perfectly well within spec and is everything I hoped it would be, there’s one thing I am concerned about.

Um…my life seems to be relatively unchanged from before I had this watch?! I expected this watch to be transformative, you know? Like everything would be rainbows and unicorns after acquiring the watch I’ve been longing for for a few months. But nothing. Don’t get get me wrong, I love the watch, absolutely no regrets, but I don’t really feel any different now. Has anyone else experienced this?

I’ve gone through the manual very closely, and while it doesn’t expressly say that the watch will be fundamentally life changing, neither does it say that it will not be fundamentally life changing. Call me crazy, but among watch enthusiasts isn’t it simply taken as a given that when one finally receives a watch one’s been longing for, it will materially change every aspect of your life?

If anything, this watch, as beautiful as it is, has added to my stress and anxiety as I try to figure out how to tell my wife about it. By the way, the manual is worthless in this regard as there’s no section at all about how one should go about breaking the news to one’s spouse. I’d expect that from a kickstarter watch but not from an established brand like CW.

So does the 60/60 guarantee cover metaphysical uncertainty? I’ve emailed CW customer service about this and CCed Mike France on it. I’ll let you know what I hear back.
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[I’ll just get my coat and show myself out…]

The joy of any treasured possession is not that it changes your life but that it fits in and becomes part of your life…

golfjunky wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:32 am The thrill is in the chase

Agreed, and I believe that although it's not in the manual, the accepted course of action, is to gift the watch to a fellow forum member. I think this will be backed up by CW in due course.
I believe it states, that the person who writes the 5th post on the thread is the chosen recipient.

Thanks Steve

I think that, in legalistic terms, the reach of your metaphysical claim under 60/60 should match the linguistic methods by which you were sold the watch.
For example:

Ever since Rolex took the Explorer back to its original size last year, 36mm has become the case size of the moment. And when you see the 36mm C63 Sealander Automatic in the metal, you’ll see just how powerful a smaller watch can be.
(CW website)

This would imply that unless you are currently feeling ‘powerful’ when wearing your new watch, you do legitimately have a claim under 60/60.

jkbarnes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:37 am So I’ve had the C63 for a few weeks now, and I absolutely love it. While it’s functioning perfectly well within spec and is everything I hoped it would be, there’s one thing I am concerned about.

Um…my life seems to be relatively unchanged from before I had this watch?! I expected this watch to be transformative, you know? Like everything would be rainbows and unicorns after acquiring the watch I’ve been longing for for a few months. But nothing. Don’t get get me wrong, I love the watch, absolutely no regrets, but I don’t really feel any different now. Has anyone else experienced this?

I’ve gone through the manual very closely, and while it doesn’t expressly say that the watch will be fundamentally life changing, neither does it say that it will not be fundamentally life changing. Call me crazy, but among watch enthusiasts isn’t it simply taken as a given that when one finally receives a watch one’s been longing for, it will materially change every aspect of your life?

If anything, this watch, as beautiful as it is, has added to my stress and anxiety as I try to figure out how to tell my wife about it. By the way, the manual is worthless in this regard as there’s no section at all about how one should go about breaking the news to one’s spouse. I’d expect that from a kickstarter watch but not from an established brand like CW.

So does the 60/60 guarantee cover metaphysical uncertainty? I’ve emailed CW customer service about this and CCed Mike France on it. I’ll let you know what I hear back.
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[I’ll just get my coat and show myself out…]

Hi Andrew. First put the watch away for a couple of months, and then when you wear it, you can truthfully say "What, this old thing? No, I've had this for months." I am sure that's what the ladies do.

Secondly. Now's the time to be careful. When the thrill of the chase becomes the main point of the exercise, rather than the actual watch. You're going to need a bigger box soon. Keep safe.

jkbarnes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:37 am has added to my stress and anxiety

Andrew, sorry if my response to your post is seen as off topic but the above line I found fascinating as it has coincided with me reading about the psychology of social media. I’ve been exploring why I sometimes feel the need to share my stress and anxiety on the forum and nowhere else. I’ve come to the conclusion that my posts here are in the majority are angry and reactive. My time here is not a happy time but it’s a place where I can shout and that’s good for me. The loudest shout was deleted by admin, something that still hurts me. However, it was a valuable lesson learnt. There, I’ve off loaded and can get back to my day. I hope you too find an answer to your stress and anxiety.

I expected this watch to be transformative

Andrew, I think the problem (such as it is) is really quite simple. The watch wasn't sufficiently expensive. Now, had you spent, let's say $10,000 on a new watch, it would have changed your like in so many ways. Or at least having spent that amount you would almost certainly convince yourself that it had.

exHowfener wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:24 am

I expected this watch to be transformative

Andrew, I think the problem (such as it is) is really quite simple. The watch wasn't sufficiently expensive. Now, had you spent, let's say $10,000 on a new watch, it would have changed your like in so many ways. Or at least having spent that amount you would almost certainly convince yourself that it had.

Sorry to get serious, although I am sure your point was made in jest.

I don't think it's about the money. I think Andrew would have felt the same even if he bought a Reverso. I get it regularly. An urge to spend money on something, anything. Really an itch that HAS to be scratched. When that happens I try to get something I vaguely need, such as a pack of socks. That's why buying an inexpensive strap is just as good as buying an expensive (or inexpensive) watch. Once you eventually get to the point that you know you have a surfeit of watches, you can indulge a different hobby, such as or watch-fettling, guitars, or cookware, and then there's loads more stuff you can buy.

Maybe it's the result of being exposed to so much advertising. I can't remember the book titles, but I do recall reading a number of SF stories on this theme. Just conditioning people to consume. On a vaguely political note, I think that's what quantitive easing was a few years ago. An exercise in encouraging spending, and not rewarding thrift. The economy needs us to spend, to buy things and experiences we could easily manage without, and more importantly to borrow money we don't have in order to buy those things. That's how everyone stays in work.

Maybe Andrew is joking of course, and he really does love his new watch, and will never want or need another, (for a year or two)

strapline wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:56 am Very good, Andrew...this tickled me this morning. A worthy thread of the month I think.

Excellent! Mission accomplished then.

Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 6:29 am The joy of any treasured possession is not that it changes your life but that it fits in and becomes part of your life…

JAFO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:17 am …First put the watch away for a couple of months…

Richard D wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:36 am …but the above line I found fascinating... I hope you too find an answer to your stress and anxiety.

It was all tongue in cheek, gentlemen. Every time I look at the watch, a big smile comes across my face, full stop. Anything else said was just for laughs.

JAFO wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:08 am
Maybe Andrew is joking of course, and he really does love his new watch, and will never want or need another, (for a year or two)

I am joking, of course, but if I can get serious for a moment, the new C63 is my third CW. In regards to my “collection,” mentally this watch has pushed me to now legitimately thinking of it as a collection. And knowing myself the way I do, I could easily see myself venturing down a rabbit hole that becomes more about the thrill of the chase and buying for less than ideal reasons. I’ve done it with guitars, camera lenses, enameled cast iron cookware, and continue to do it with books. With that in mind, there will be no more watch purchases for quite awhile, lest a tongue in cheek post becomes a serious post.

missF wrote: ↑Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:16 am I think that, in legalistic terms, the reach of your metaphysical claim under 60/60 should match the linguistic methods by which you were sold the watch.
For example:

Ever since Rolex took the Explorer back to its original size last year, 36mm has become the case size of the moment. And when you see the 36mm C63 Sealander Automatic in the metal, you’ll see just how powerful a smaller watch can be.
(CW website)

This would imply that unless you are currently feeling ‘powerful’ when wearing your new watch, you do legitimately have a claim under 60/60.

Perfect response!

Thread of the year!

Personally, I don' t expect a new watch to change my life, but I do want a watch to make me smile every once in a while when I glance down at it - if it can't do that, it probably won't get much time on my wrist now.

My two CWs manage that perfectly, and I've been wearing my old quartz Mondaine for the past few days (after convincing myself I'm not a white watch guy) and every time I look down at it I grin (this was a 30th birthday present from my wife, which landed about 3 weeks after we were married and just before we went on honeymoon! Not my flashiest watch, but one full of wonderful memories!)

So whilst I realise this thread is tongue in cheek, to properly answer your question - I reckon as long as you feel a little bit of joy when your eyes find their way to your wrist then your new watch is meeting all expectations set out in the 60/60 guarantee... and if you don't, then it's time to fill out that return slip