Mikkei4 wrote: ↑Fri May 02, 2025 12:38 pm No date, it's too small for many people to read so don't have it.

Use red for the highlight colour on GMT hand and wording rather than orange.

39mm or 40mm.

Retain option for both bracelet types plus rubber and leather straps.

Darker surrounds for batons and hands so easier to see, particularly on a white dial.

Retain a slim case.

Bring back a dark blue dial.

The use of red or the CW light blue would be much better than orange in most cases. A dark blue and a plain hunter or Lincoln green dial would also be good IMO.

Some very good ideas here.

I like the SW300 idea, as a general movement but I know it increases the cost. However, since thinner is the new 38mm, it would allow a thinner case.

No 3/6/9/12 on the dial. This takes it from a true homage to a blatant copy. Why not add a cyclops over the date, a crown and be done. No, no, no.
Well I guess you could make it in China and sell it for $100 on AliExpress that way. Please no.

Titanium is a good idea but that would have to be linked to something special to make it the SeaLander Elite II. What would happen to the Sealander Elite, it never seemed like a true part of the Sealander range and maybe an upscale Sealander with a titanium case, xenoprint indices and an SW300/COSC would be a more normal Elite variant.

albionphoto wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 12:37 am
No 3/6/9/12 on the dial. This takes it from a true homage to a blatant copy. Why not add a cyclops over the date, a crown and be done. No, no, no.

I agree with this
(You could rename it the Sealandweller) ...

missF wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 6:09 am

albionphoto wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 12:37 am
No 3/6/9/12 on the dial. This takes it from a true homage to a blatant copy. Why not add a cyclops over the date, a crown and be done. No, no, no.

I agree with this
(You could rename it the Sealandweller) ...

You mean a watch named after these two chaps? That would be cool.

Neil

Yeah, I've always felt that those guys were just crying out to have a GADA watch named after them. I guess you could put together a Style Council to come up with design and colour ideas ....

A rose on the dial next??? What kind of mashup frankenhomage are we talking about here??

albionphoto wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 12:37 am
No 3/6/9/12 on the dial. This takes it from a true homage to a blatant copy. Why not add a cyclops over the date, a crown and be done. No, no, no.
Well I guess you could make it in China and sell it for $100 on AliExpress that way. Please no.

Might be worth viewing the present 3 hander Sealander alongside a Rolex Oyster Perpetual to see how little they differ but I don't consider the Sealander a copy or IMO even a homage, it's just a style of watch dial.

3/6/9 or 3/6/9/12 is an accepted dial style and no one watch producer has ownership of it so why not?

The Sealander was inspired by the Rolex Explorer and is a homage to that watch but it's not a copy. The OP was not its inspiration and so can be ignored in this contx. Adopting the 3/6/9, etc will move it much closer to being a copy. Christopher Ward as a brand have moved away from being a brand that makes copy (or used incorrectly, "homage") watches. Sometimes more successfully than others and it would be a shame to undo that progress. Yes, 3/6/9 is a dial style but it would be a mistake to use it on the Sealander. Let that dial style ruin something else. I find large numerals on dials to be ugly and unnecessary and almost no brand scales them properly to different watch sizes.

So for me there are two reasons to not use 3/6/9 or 3/6/9/12 - a lack of originality/"homage" accusations and they are ugly too. Using the numbers would make it a different watch.

To be honest, I am impressed that watch designers are able to come up with new takes on a 3 hand watch

As well as the CW Sealander (and other models), a couple of other watches that spring to mind are the Erebus Ascent and the Studio Underdog field watches, I would happily have any of these if I didn't already have several 3 handers that fill much the same slot.

In general I prefer watches to be less heavily decorated, with more elegant hand designs. I like display case backs, and I would be happy with a push pull crown, and a hand wound movement, but they are relatively less common.

I’d be curious to see a Sealander with indices like those on the Twelve. Would that stray too much into Aqua Terra territory though?

The Sealander range is pretty solid as is. Here are the few tweaks I would suggest:

1. Play with the bezel a bit. Different textures and finishes here. I'm not taking all out fluting but something to add some visual interest.

2. A more refined handset. The handset is a bit toolish for this line I think. Something more refined like what is on the Dune would be better. I also somewhat agree that the trident counter balance could go on the seconds hand. Leaving this exclusively for the Trident range.

3. A more refined crown. This too is a bit toolish. A more refined crown in a slightly smaller size would be good.

4. I would advocate for a blue dial back in the range that is more refined and understated. Something between the original blue (which was very dark and flat) and the Kingfisher. Add some texture for visual interest. But it should be subtle. Not 12 ziggurat style. Take a cue from the Super Compressor dial and make it a darker deeper blue.

5. I would shy away from adding additional complications. I don't think that is what the Sealander is trying to be. I would not add anything over the current GMTs. It is okay to experiment with something like the Valour in a different range but leave the Sealander functionality as is.

6. Maybe introduce a no date option.

jkbarnes wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 3:57 pm I’d be curious to see a Sealander with indices like those on the Twelve. Would that stray too much into Aqua Terra territory though?

OMG, might as well put a Ω at 12, write “Sealander” under the CW symbol also and be done with it so you could sell it for $150 elsewhere.

In my defense, the thought was driven by the idea updating the line with design language from some of the newer models.