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I took my info from the Meistersinger website. I have no issue about it being modified. I was a little surprised to see it didn't state a JJ model. And naturally, I can no longer find the info I referenced yesterday. I vaguely recollect it was linked to an LE or special edition (handwound?).

But this is the info currently available from their website, which is confusing as it references the stratoscope, not lunascope, when you click on the movement information.

The MS Luna automatic movement ticks inside the Stratoscope and is fitted with the moon phase module developed by MeisterSinger. The movement is based on the Swiss Sellita SW220, which is specially modified for MeisterSinger’s single-hand watches. The Stratoscope’s moon phase display is exceptionally precise and only needs a slight adjustment every 122 years. The date display can be conveniently set via its quick-switch function. The rotor provides the watch with a power reserve of 38 hours.

https://meistersinger.com/en/product/lu ... urst-blue/

The lunarscope is 41mm, the stratoscope 43mm. I guess they could use the same movement. Interestingly, AD info states the watch is 40mm and uses 'ETA 2836-2 with MeisterSinger moon phase module'. I guess it has evolved since first being introduced?

It's giving me a headache! I will go and look at in the flesh when the AD returns to it's original location (assuming it will). The Mall is currently closed for renovation.
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@Caller, here is some info from the archive that might shed some light (see the boxed info in the screenshot). It certainly has evolved, with the ETA 2836-2 being used as the base in the beginning but a rolling changeover to the SW220 happened at some point.


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ajax87 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:23 pm @Caller, here is some info from the archive that might shed some light (see the boxed info in the screenshot). It certainly has evolved, with the ETA 2836-2 being used as the base in the beginning but a rolling changeover to the SW220 happened at some point.
Thanks for that, which confirms the evolved status of the model. Saves me searching again for my lost initial source!
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ajax87 wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:55 pm
virgilmerk wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:50 am
ajax87 wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 12:57 am In addition to what @Bahnstormer_vRS said above regarding the possibility (or impossibility) of a more subtle moonphase, I just ran across an article on Esquire in which Mike France himself is quoted as follows:

“The most asked-for complication was the moonphase. What we wanted to do was celebrate that magnificent celestial being in all of its glory. And so none of this ‘small aperture at 6 o’clock' nonsense for us. We wanted a huge moonphase."

https://www.esquire.com/uk/watches/a456 ... ase-watch/

I bolded the important bit :lol:

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you!
Do you think it is possible to have a subtle moonphase complication in the future?
Only Mike France can say, but I’d guess the chances are very very low.
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I ordered one- for december. I also ordered a bel canto for July 2024. I need 2 more posts- lol to look at some of the forum. These are very different than anything I own, but I collect and love watches. Neither of these are for the practical person who needs a watch to tell time so they don't miss the bus--but I'm not that guy anyway.
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Caller wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:35 pm I took my info from the Meistersinger website. I have no issue about it being modified. I was a little surprised to see it didn't state a JJ model. And naturally, I can no longer find the info I referenced yesterday. I vaguely recollect it was linked to an LE or special edition (handwound?).

But this is the info currently available from their website, which is confusing as it references the stratoscope, not lunascope, when you click on the movement information.

The MS Luna automatic movement ticks inside the Stratoscope and is fitted with the moon phase module developed by MeisterSinger. The movement is based on the Swiss Sellita SW220, which is specially modified for MeisterSinger’s single-hand watches. The Stratoscope’s moon phase display is exceptionally precise and only needs a slight adjustment every 122 years. The date display can be conveniently set via its quick-switch function. The rotor provides the watch with a power reserve of 38 hours.

https://meistersinger.com/en/product/lu ... urst-blue/

The lunarscope is 41mm, the stratoscope 43mm. I guess they could use the same movement. Interestingly, AD info states the watch is 40mm and uses 'ETA 2836-2 with MeisterSinger moon phase module'. I guess it has evolved since first being introduced?

It's giving me a headache! I will go and look at in the flesh when the AD returns to it's original location (assuming it will). The Mall is currently closed for essay renovation.
I am curious, if you allow please, which movement is actually used in those Lunascope and Stratoscope models?
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virgilmerk wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2023 10:33 am
I am curious, if you allow please, which movement is actually used in those Lunascope and Stratoscope models?
For the Lunascope, I think that was subsequently answered by others. As for the stratoscope, I have no idea. Sorrry
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I think the moon glow is a far superior looking watch, I think not putting the logo is a bit arrogant from CW 🤷‍♂️
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Masterwoodsman wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:00 pm I think the moon glow is a far superior looking watch, I think not putting the logo is a bit arrogant from CW 🤷‍♂️
Arrogant or just supremely confident? :-k :-k

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:43 pm
Masterwoodsman wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:00 pm I think the moon glow is a far superior looking watch, I think not putting the logo is a bit arrogant from CW 🤷‍♂️
Arrogant or just supremely confident? :-k :-k

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I'll stick with my first thought 'arrogant'....great brand however still a micro brand in a mass market. The watch without the logo, as discussed on another forum, looks like a watch out of a kids toy in Blackpool....the logo would have made a big difference to the aesthetics and made it a statement piece. As a watch brand they're just not big enough to put a watch out there unbranded in a market where the mass majority wouldn't have a clue what it is 🤷‍♂️
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Masterwoodsman wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:35 am The watch without the logo, as discussed on another forum, looks like a watch out of a kids toy in Blackpool....
I bet it doesn’t look like that IRL :lol:
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My mate has one and apart from the Aventurine dial which is very eye catching, the watch has no identity. What is a Rolex or Omega without their logo and would folk buy it. Look it's just my humble opinion but i think CW missed a trick on this watch, especially 'their' statement piece.
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^^^ A statement or halo piece like this is always going to divide opinion.

The C60 Concept drew a lot of attention and admiration. I never liked it.

I think this one is very attractive, but I don’t want it for reasons I have stated elsewhere.

It’s good to see a range of opinions.
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@Masterwoodsman - it’s a really interesting thought though - would I buy a Rolex if it didn’t have a crown on the dial??? I’d need to give it some careful thought… But probably a discussion for another thread.

For me, the aesthetics of this dial is so important and so pared back that I don’t see where or how you would place a brand logo.
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missF wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 8:14 am @Masterwoodsman - it’s a really interesting thought though - would I buy a Rolex if it didn’t have a crown on the dial??? I’d need to give it some careful thought… But probably a discussion for another thread.

For me, the aesthetics of this dial is so important and so pared back that I don’t see where or how you would place a brand logo.
I guess the point I'm trying to get across is a Rolex without the logo is still a Rolex, an Omega without the branding is still an Omega. CW are trying to break into the mass market and be recognised as a serious contender/brand to compete with the big boys. However a CW watch without the logo is just a watch, they should be promoting the brand on every occasion especially on statement pieces otherwise this watch can easily fly under the radar and not get the recognition CW probably think it should get/deserve. As for logo positioning I'm sure it could be discreetly applied on the dial as a subtle branding/identity 🤷‍♂️
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