MichaelMD wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:59 pm

mvlow wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:46 pm According to the moon phase chart there is a full hunter's moon on October 28th at 1:24pm. If I were to buy this watch I could see myself sitting there with my iPhone at 1:23 and 45 seconds concentrating on pushing the crown in at exactly 1:24pm to make sure the moon phase is accurate. Then rushing online to buy a watch winder, as I wouldn't want to be looking up the moon phase chart every few days if the watch stopped

Serious question for the uninformed as I've never owned a moon phase watch. When you pull the crown out all the way to hack the seconds hand and set the time does it hack the moon phase as well, so that the moon phase is no longer perfectly accurate. If that is the case, you would have to hack the watch at the exact time of the moon phase you want and set the time at the same time I think?

Personally I wouldn't care if the moon phase was a few minutes off as it's probably not noticeable, but we all know there are some WIS that would stress over this every time they set the watch

I used to own an Omega moonphase watch and the moon would move sligtly once per day. So hacking the seconds or setting the time would not affect tha accuracty of the moon phase. It's still going to make the jump at a set time. I think my Omega used to move at noon.

It doesn't work the same as your Omega. The JJ04 module is a perpetual moonphase, so the moon disc moves in a smooth motion throughout the day.

^^^ Yep, connected to the hour hand. So if you pull the crown out and set the time, the moonphase disk rotates as well.

mvlow wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:46 pm According to the moon phase chart there is a full hunter's moon on October 28th at 1:24pm. If I were to buy this watch I could see myself sitting there with my iPhone at 1:23 and 45 seconds concentrating on pushing the crown in at exactly 1:24pm to make sure the moon phase is accurate. Then rushing online to buy a watch winder, as I wouldn't want to be looking up the moon phase chart every few days if the watch stopped

Get you outdoors man!

Serious question for the uninformed as I've never owned a moon phase watch. When you pull the crown out all the way to hack the seconds hand and set the time does it hack the moon phase as well, so that the moon phase is no longer perfectly accurate. If that is the case, you would have to hack the watch at the exact time of the moon phase you want and set the time at the same time I think?

Personally I wouldn't care if the moon phase was a few minutes off as it's probably not noticeable, but we all know there are some WIS that would stress over this every time they set the watch

Well I have a watch with moonphase built in, it's a variant 7750, I think the 7751 and to be completely honest with you what with setting the date, the day, the hour and minute hands as well as the moon phase, it's a serious RTFM proposition every time I get it out. If ever I had a watch which deserves a winder....... Seriously, the manual isn't yet listed separately on CW's website.

ajax87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:58 pm

MistaFroggyG wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:17 pm

ajax87 wrote:What’s interesting to me is that the new Moonphase dial is much dressier than the Moonglow, but they dressed down the case and made it more toolish. It looks a lot like a C63 case. The Moonglow case is quite dressy. Pictures below.

I think the Moonglow would look better with the new Moonphase’s case, and vice versa.

I do like both but have no desire to replace my moonglow or add another moonphase. Well done CW!

I agree with proposing a case swap. I find that I often need to try and dress down my Moonglow, I’d love the consort bracelet for it if was an option.

I almost always wear mine dressed down. It pretty much lives on an Ericka's MN style strap. But you're right, the consort would be great! Probably wouldn't work even if it did fit, with the top of the lugs being polished on the Moonglow. I'm getting a consort bracelet with the FLE, so I'll throw it on and double check. You never know!

Mike France mentioned during the preview that the Moonglow is going to see a case update in the near future. It seems to reason that they are going to update it to look more like the Moonphase.

Well, after all the hype, my initial reaction was, 'is that it'.

Having read all about it and seen a couple of vids, and notwithstanding all the technical stuff, I am still of the opinion, 'is that it?'

Maybe the expectation was too much.

Definitely not a watch for me. After hearing Mike France a couple of weeks ago comment that it was a 'subtle' take on the moonphase. I would hate to see what he thinks is audacious! 20% larger moon than on the Moonglow is subtle?

Marketing gymnastics aside -

It is a lovely watch but not my style in any way. I would choose the Moonglow over this new release. I would choose the Longines Flagship Moonphase over both.

The price really surprised me. Only $150 over the Moonglow. Well done.

This is another one I think you are going to have to see in person to appreciate.

Just like the Halo I am glad that CW is pushing its own boundaries. Hope they get back to something in my wheelhouse soon.

rkovars wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 3:28 pm

ajax87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:58 pm

MistaFroggyG wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:17 pm
I agree with proposing a case swap. I find that I often need to try and dress down my Moonglow, I’d love the consort bracelet for it if was an option.

I almost always wear mine dressed down. It pretty much lives on an Ericka's MN style strap. But you're right, the consort would be great! Probably wouldn't work even if it did fit, with the top of the lugs being polished on the Moonglow. I'm getting a consort bracelet with the FLE, so I'll throw it on and double check. You never know!

Mike France mentioned during the preview that the Moonglow is going to see a case update in the near future. It seems to reason that they are going to update it to look more like the Moonphase.

I missed the preview, thanks for that bit of info. If they keep the Moonglow dial the same but use the new C1 case, I just might trade up. Darn it, there's always something to pull me back in!

ajax87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:06 pm What’s interesting to me is that the new Moonphase dial is much dressier than the Moonglow, but they dressed down the case and made it more toolish. It looks a lot like a C63 case. The Moonglow case is quite dressy. Pictures below.

I think the Moonglow would look better with the new Moonphase’s case, and vice versa.

I do like both but have no desire to replace my moonglow or add another moonphase. Well done CW!



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Simplistically, the case of the new C1 Moonphase is predominately styled on the C1 Bel Canto, witness the slab sides, with a nod to the lightcatcher™ case of the C1 Moonglow.

I like it.

Guy

rkovars wrote:

ajax87 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:58 pm

MistaFroggyG wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 2:17 pm I agree with proposing a case swap. I find that I often need to try and dress down my Moonglow, I’d love the consort bracelet for it if was an option.

I almost always wear mine dressed down. It pretty much lives on an Ericka's MN style strap. But you're right, the consort would be great! Probably wouldn't work even if it did fit, with the top of the lugs being polished on the Moonglow. I'm getting a consort bracelet with the FLE, so I'll throw it on and double check. You never know!

Mike France mentioned during the preview that the Moonglow is going to see a case update in the near future. It seems to reason that they are going to update it to look more like the Moonphase.

I’m very happy the Moonglow will get a revision and the model will keep going. I believe it’s already their oldest-released currently sold watch and I believe it to be iconic to the brand.

To my eyes it’s a lovely piece of jewlery that would look wonderful at 34-36mm on the wrist of a beautiful woman at the opera, on the mesh strap.

watchaholic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:44 pm To my eyes it’s a lovely piece of jewlery that would look wonderful at 34-36mm on the wrist of a beautiful woman at the opera, on the mesh strap.

Am I the only one that immediately conjured up the image of Swiss Tony from The Fast Show when reading this?

(you may not get the reference, Dwight)

Honestly @BobMunro , Swiss Tony??? I’m sure CW will be thrilled by the association - bit like having the world‘s best brand ambassador

BobMunro wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:27 pm

watchaholic wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:44 pm To my eyes it’s a lovely piece of jewlery that would look wonderful at 34-36mm on the wrist of a beautiful woman at the opera, on the mesh strap.

Am I the only one that immediately conjured up the image of Swiss Tony from The Fast Show when reading this?

(you may not get the reference, Dwight)

Oh, I get it now. U tube is my friend.

@mvlow - to add to the post by @MichaelMD above . . .

From the CW Website;- "the moon is linked to the hour hand and is in constant motion, with the phases of the moon represented in a single smooth movement."

Thinking on this; if you stop the hour hand i.e. when you hack the watch, you will also be stopping the Moonphase disc BUT that is synchronised to the hour hand; a bit like the GMT hand on a GMT movement that rotates through 360 degrees once every 24 hours, except the Moonphase disc in a JJ04 Calibre does a 360 degree rotation once every 59.06 days (29.53 x 2 days as there are two moons on the disc).

As for adjusting the Moonphase disc if you've left the watch stopped for any period of time (as I tend to do) the Owners Handbook states (actually from the C1 Moonglow, but the C1 Moonphase will be the same);-

"Setting the moon phase is relatively simple. For perfect synchronization, you will need the date of the last full or new moon. To adjust the moon phase pull (the crown) gently into position 2. Turn in an anti-clockwise direction to rotate the moonphase disk into the desired position. Rapid correction of the moonphase is possible at any time without risk of damaging the mechanism."

Remember, the movement used is a JJ04 modification of the SW220, which is a day / date movement.


Finally, another point to remember, is that most moonphase watches have the moonphase in a small subdial, with the moon's position advancing in daily steps (a bit like the date) as opposed to the JJ04 where the moon advances smoothly and perpetually.

I hope this helps.

Guy