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ajax87 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:11 pm
J0EMI wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:46 pm
ajax87 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:33 pm
The guy that picked up the orange sapphire prototype frequents the Christopher Ward Aficionados Facebook page, maybe the enthusiasts one too? He just posted a bunch of pics of it a few days ago, and it does look stunning. He looks like he really likes it, sadly for you :( but it never hurts to drop him a message about buying it! I’ve definitely thought about it!
Would you mind sharing what the orange sapphire prototype looks like? Would love to see but I am not on Facebook.
The guy is apparently a forum member and posted pics on page 36 of 50-something in the sale thread - Richard posted a link above!
Many thanks! It's not quite what I was expecting, I imagined it being a transparent dial with the movement visible underneath, much like this red prototype I saw recently, an orange variant would be stunning.
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Great. Wasnt aware of the red. Another unicorn ill need to try to buy at some point :o
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J0EMI wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:17 pm
ajax87 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:11 pm
J0EMI wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:46 pm

Would you mind sharing what the orange sapphire prototype looks like? Would love to see but I am not on Facebook.
The guy is apparently a forum member and posted pics on page 36 of 50-something in the sale thread - Richard posted a link above!
Many thanks! It's not quite what I was expecting, I imagined it being a transparent dial with the movement visible underneath, much like this red prototype I saw recently, an orange variant would be stunning.

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I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine they needed to test out different levels of transparency to get to the final product, so it stands to reason this would exist.

That red one is quite the looker though...

Kind of sidetracked the thread though. The 2 new models are both pretty good looking IMO! If I recall, quite a few people wished for new sapphire color variants in the 2021 release wish list thread. Seems likely CW will deliver on more.

And the Worldglow also has a sapphire dial. That seems to be becoming CW’s “thing”.
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Id welcome the idea of more sapphire dials on certain models. I dont think its overdone in the market. So long as CW choose the models wisely it will be a good move imho.

Guess we will see what this year brings, but in the smoked saphire I think they're off to a decent start :clap:
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I think that orange sapphire prototype would sell easily as there's quite a few of us interested in it! ;) (I bet not enough for an LE though!)

The black sapphire does undergo a much more rigorous colouration technique than the blue ever did (the colouring method for the blue was probably the only turn off for me due to longevity concerns). I think the black sapphire is brilliant. (That red is amazing too, though not subtle at all!)

From the page HERE, it says:
The first C60 Sapphire broke the mould – and sales records, too.

Then the conversations began: could we do another C60 Sapphire? How would we make a watch that wasn’t just the equal of the original but something with its own unique character?

The answer to that is the C60 Sapphire Black.

Like the original C60 Sapphire, the dial is made from ultra-thin, scratch-resistant sapphire. However, here, the sapphire has been ‘smoked’ – something that’s achieved through a complex process called physical vapour deposition (PVD).

This involves placing the sapphire in a vacuum chamber filled with a vapour of silver and carbon graphite – heated to 400°C – for three hours. It’s then put in another chamber, this time filled with silicon oxide vapour, which adds protection.

The result is a subtly tinted transparent dial that allows you to see deep into the Sellita SW200-1 movement. And with a compressive strength of 2,000 megapascals, it’s not just beautiful but incredibly tough, too.
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If they do black sapphire and orange bezel they can sell it at Halloween.
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That red prototype is gorgeous :o

I'm liking the black sapphire too, and watching the sealander carefully...
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A green sapphire would look good provided it was the right shade - a darker emerald or BRG maybe.
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downer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:30 pm
alanrolfe01 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:01 pm

CW's range shouldn't be dependant on the mechanical inconsistancies of the Sellita 200's.
Sorry, but I don't understand this. What inconsistencies?
Issue with the winding rotor has plagued Sellita 200's wherever they have been used. In fact, to watchmaker friends of mine now advise avoiding ALL Sellita movements whatever the brand !!!
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alanrolfe01 wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:59 am
downer wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:30 pm
alanrolfe01 wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:01 pm

CW's range shouldn't be dependant on the mechanical inconsistancies of the Sellita 200's.
Sorry, but I don't understand this. What inconsistencies?
Issue with the winding rotor has plagued Sellita 200's wherever they have been used. In fact, to watchmaker friends of mine now advise avoiding ALL Sellita movements whatever the brand !!!
Wow, that’s a big statement to make!
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I have no data at all, but I'd be surprised if the failure rate on SW200's is anything to write home about. Of course, I could well be wrong and I'd be interested to see the data to back up the claim.
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Same here. That kind of left field revelation wipes out a fair chunk of the Swiss Watch industry. Just to add that I’ve had no such issue with any of my Sellittas. 🤞
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True, even through Covid lockdown new TAG's are arriving with the same spinning rotor issue, so it's not just CW's. The ETA movement that they're derived from are fine!!
You only need to look on here for the CWA or CWE Facebook pages to see the comments about winder issue watches being returned. The comments were made as a friend to avoid any possible, but sadly common, issues.
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I would just say this...

Data is not the plural of anecdote. The fact that a few (probably little more than a handful) people report issues on facebook groups or forums hardly makes it an endemic issue.

When you think of the number of watches sold with SW200 based movements, and you remember that the movement has been around for years, it's difficult to imagine it's a widespread problem.

However, we are all entitled to make our own choices, and if anyone chooses to avoid SW200 based watches, that's up to them. Having said that, it would not put me off at all, as I've never actually experienced the issue, despite having owned a reasonable number of them.
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My Trident C61 had the winding issue; went back to CW a few times before I moved it on - not sure what movement it had, was bought c2014.
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