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I doubt that CW will end up releasing a quartz chronograph, without also having a mechanical version in the pipeline.

Rather than grumbling, I imagine for many it will be more a wry smile, of thinking back to the marketing statements at the time CW announced no more quartz and comparing them to whatever marketing copy is released alongside a new quartz chronograph. IF CW do indeed release a new quartz model.

Does it make sense to release a Sealander quartz chronograph? The Sealander is the brands entry level range, so it could be argued that yes it does make sense.

Only a fool would think “I am not going to buy a CW mechanical model because they have devalued the brand by releasing a quartz”.

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Looks interesting. Like the applied numerals. As to the is it quartz or mechanical question, surely it’s mechanical. It says chronometer on the dial. Doesn’t that only apply to mechanical watches? Pretty much every quartz watch ever made can p**s on the COSC standard of -4/+6s per day.

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strapline wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:08 pm It says chronometer on the dial. Doesn’t that only apply to mechanical watches?
No it doesn't - ludicrously.

In view of MF's comments, maybe he is not the final arbiter anymore?

If it quartz, then I would assume this is not a one-off, so how about creating a separate model range for quartz? Or even a sub-brand as per Seiko / Alba?
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strapline wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 5:08 pm Looks interesting. Like the applied numerals. As to the is it quartz or mechanical question, surely it’s mechanical. It says chronometer on the dial. Doesn’t that only apply to mechanical watches? Pretty much every quartz watch ever made can p**s on the COSC standard of -4/+6s per day.

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You get quartz chronometers as well but they are tested againstvery very much more accurate standards than the mechanical ones. I might have imagined this but something like +\- 0.07 seconds per day
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I think it will be a good seller if it is a quartz Chronograph. Of all the different types of watches, chronographs tend to benefit the most from using a quartz movement. Mechanical chronographs are typically bigger, heavier, and more expensive than their three handed or GMT counterparts.

Having a quartz chronograph that is thinner, more accurate, and less expensive than a mechanical watch of the same style can check a lot of boxes. Add to those advantages the CW light catcher case and overall quality, and you can have a very nice watch that can be worn everyday. Depending on the final specs, price, and looks, I will seriously consider adding this to my collection.
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I don't have a chronograph and will likely only venture there if it's quartz. The mechanicals are too bulky for my tastes.
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missF wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:57 pm If it's a quartz chronograph I imagine there will be some grumbles about CW 'going back on their word' about quartz. I don't think it should bother CW too much. There were grumbles from some when they stopped producing quartz watches as it was seen as turning their backs on their value proposition, and leaving some of their customers behind. There there will be grumbles if they 'go back to quartz' - not for producing a quality low cost chronograph, but for some other irk it'll cause them. Changing the plan?? How dare you change the plan!

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I have no issues with CW selling quartz watches again - they will have tested the market no doubt and if that's what the market wants, then why wouldn't a business wish to service that need.
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JAFO wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:24 pm
missF wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:57 pm If it's a quartz chronograph I imagine there will be some grumbles about CW 'going back on their word' about quartz. I don't think it should bother CW too much. There were grumbles from some when they stopped producing quartz watches as it was seen as turning their backs on their value proposition, and leaving some of their customers behind. There there will be grumbles if they 'go back to quartz' - not for producing a quality low cost chronograph, but for some other irk it'll cause them. Changing the plan?? How dare you change the plan!

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I rather got the impression you were rarely disgruntled, Lindsey. The glass always seems to be well over half full. :D
I wasn't disgruntled at all - just making a prediction that some were disgruntled with change before, and some may be disgruntled with change this time around :D
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Am I the only one reminded of the recent C65 AM GT quartz chronos, by this teaser? I seem to recall CW had to discount them lots to sell the final ones despite them being COSC certified thermo quartz models? Apologies if I've got my wires crossed , but are CW going to risk a repeat? Or has the appetite for quartz returned given the spiralling prices of mechanical watches?
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So much hate for quartz around here. What's not to like? They are still a marvel of modern engineering.,..

To throw a curveball, could it be Mecca quartz, quartz with mechanical chronograph??
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gannet wrote:So much hate for quartz around here. What's not to like? They are still a marvel of modern engineering.,..

To throw a curveball, could it be Mecca quartz, quartz with mechanical chronograph??
Mecha-quartz uses a motor for the chronograph movement, I’m not sure why it would be considered anything but still quartz.

Is there a Swiss made mecha-quartz movement? It’s typically a Japanese thing.
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So much hate for quartz around here. What's not to like? They are still a marvel of modern engineering.
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I like (some) mechanical watches and some quartz watches, there's space for both in my world. I think that many of us remember Mike France's pronouncement on quartz. I'm also familiar with the way MF gushes in "Loupe" about each new introduction to the range. often for us to see it quietly dropped shortly after. Surely people can change their mind?

Whatever the movement, it looks to be a fine watch.
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maclink wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 7:39 pm I don't have a chronograph and will likely only venture there if it's quartz. The mechanicals are too bulky for my tastes.
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Re: New CW Sealander Chronograph

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gannet wrote: Sun Mar 24, 2024 11:24 pm So much hate for quartz around here. What's not to like? They are still a marvel of modern engineering.,..

To throw a curveball, could it be Mecca quartz, quartz with mechanical chronograph??
I don't think it's so much hate for quartz, as just loss of interest in quartz. That's how I felt. I was happy to pay rather more for the mechanics, and stopped buying.quartx watches.

I know my mechanical watches do less than quartz watches (no split timing, no tenths of seconds), and cost more, but I'm happy to accept that.
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