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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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albionphoto wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:24 pm too moons. Yuck.
I saw it referred to elsewhere as the 'two moons issue' ... :lol: I really like the 'two moons thing' - I see it as a partial view inside how the moonphase works and displays its stuff. Makes me feel more connected to the movement. I'd have liked the LE done either way.

Now - if CW wanted to design a retrograde movement that crept the moon across the top half of the dial and then swooshed it back over to the left hand side again at the new moon .... well that would be quite something!
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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Anuj wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:22 pm Think these are sold out again but I could be wrong! As they did reappear the first time they were allegedly ‘sold out’


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missF wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:25 pm It's gone from the website now. How do I know it even exists until the 20th March?? .... :-s
Agreed. :thumbup: :thumbup:

However, the details can still be seen if you click through on the link from Monday's release email; except it comes up as Sold out.

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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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missF wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:39 pm
I saw it referred to elsewhere as the 'two moons issue' ... :lol:
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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:D - 'two moons issue' it is then :lol:
I imagine there have been design meetings at CW towers where a bel canto tings, and someone clears their throat and says 'First on the agenda this morning - the two moons issue' ... :lol:


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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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I can’t swing it now, but I would seriously grab one later in the year…too bad it’s LE.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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I saw this when it was released and considered buying, since I really like the color. But as usual decided to stick with my OG moonglow. After all, mine's got literally double the moons, so it’s obviously better.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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There will be a showdown in March I'm sure - one moon v two :aufsmaul:
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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missF wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:39 pm
albionphoto wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:24 pm too moons. Yuck.
I saw it referred to elsewhere as the 'two moons issue' ... :lol: I really like the 'two moons thing' - I see it as a partial view inside how the moonphase works and displays its stuff. Makes me feel more connected to the movement. I'd have liked the LE done either way.

Now - if CW wanted to design a retrograde movement that crept the moon across the top half of the dial and then swooshed it back over to the left hand side again at the new moon .... well that would be quite something!
The two moons issue

I imagine the real issue in simulating the moon is that the moon's progress is not a discrete number of steps. The "stepped" moon uses a 59 toothed wheel, and so you get 2 moons in 59 days, a 29 day and a 30 day alternately if you will, and this moon drifts off by a day every 2.5years or so, as the true month is not exactly 29 days 12 hours. So the retrograde moon would have to overcome that issue.

Effectively in a moon phase watch the second moon traverses out of sight and appears as a waxing moon after the visible moon disappears. I actually like the idea and interest of the visible second moon.

The 128 year movement of the moon phase is an imperceptible but true ticking motion, and I don't see how you could reset that at all. The gearing just gets closer to producing the true moon month of 29 days 12hrs 44 minutes

It's these 44 minutes which accumulate over time and add up to a day after 32/33 months., which is why the 59 tooth wheel version is a day fast after 33 months.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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There definitely isn't, or ever has been, an integrated bracelet to fit these cases is there?
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Adstheman wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:47 pm There definitely isn't, or ever has been, an integrated bracelet to fit these cases is there?
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No, not for the Mk1 Moonglow case, which this watch utilises.

For the Mk2 Moonglow, it has an updated case (akin to that used for the C1 Moonphase 40), which has an integrated Consort bracelet option.
But that bracelet doesn't fit the Mk1 case.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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JAFO wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:19 pm I imagine the real issue in simulating the moon is that the moon's progress is not a discrete number of steps.
Very good points, but for me the big issue in simulating the moon is that it doesn’t look like the moon for the majority of the lunar cycle. It’s fine at full moon, new moon and for a few days either side of new moon, but it cannot depict the gibbous phases or the half moon accurately.

It’s why I don’t have a moon phase watch. I’m not OCD about many things, but that does my head in!
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Very good points, but for me the big issue in simulating the moon is that it doesn’t look like the moon for the majority of the lunar cycle. It’s fine at full moon, new moon and for a few days either side of new moon, but it cannot depict the gibbous phases or the half moon accurately.

It’s why I don’t have a moon phase watch. I’m not OCD about many things, but that does my head in!
I can sort of understand your annoyance at the representation of the phases of the moon given by the usual ‘bosom’ aperture. It is not wholly realistic most of the time. There are only two practical alternatives I know of- (1) A radial indicator which has a pointer that points to, or a cut out that reveals, one of a sequence different symbols. These symbols can be accurately drawn representations of the appearance of the moon but of necessity have to be very small. (2) Rotating sphere displays which have a small moving globe, such as the Arnold & Sons “Luna Magna”. Technically more accurate but does nothing for me aesthetically.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:42 pm
JAFO wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:19 pm I imagine the real issue in simulating the moon is that the moon's progress is not a discrete number of steps.
Very good points, but for me the big issue in simulating the moon is that it doesn’t look like the moon for the majority of the lunar cycle. It’s fine at full moon, new moon and for a few days either side of new moon, but it cannot depict the gibbous phases or the half moon accurately.

It’s why I don’t have a moon phase watch. I’m not OCD about many things, but that does my head in!
Well yes, the crescent moon looks OK, but that's about it. Still, I do like a moon phase, especially the CW large moon versions. Whether I like them £2000 much is a different question. Most likely the real issue is that I already have a surfeit of watches.
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Re: New C1 Moonglow in Celestial Blue

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@Engineer CvdK have done both types you mentioned, but they’re out of my comfort zone price wise. That much I don’t need a moon phase.
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