nbg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:10 pm ^^^ That seems a worthy idea…

Neil

nycWATCHnerd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 12:51 am

MarkingTime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:01 pm

nycWATCHnerd wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:32 pm
Toyota may not be happy about that choice even if the Avalon has been discontinued.

I'm not entirely sure that a place name of ancient legend, could ever be claimed as owned in any fashion, although Morgan might have something to say about it.

It is trademarked as expected and recently renewed. It was originally trademarked by Avalon Tire Co. in the 1970s but I believe they no longer exist and/or Toyota's corporate lawyers were able to make a case that they should own it as of 1995.

Toyota.JPG

Did Toyota negotiate with Roxy Music who are probably still receiving royalty payments for their iconic Avalon LP and track.

Mikkei4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:11 pm ... Roxy Music who are probably still receiving royalty payments for their iconic Avalon LP and track.

You reference is just making me feel old...though cool because I know and have listened to the reference LP on vinyl when new. I was lucky enough to get WLIR in Manhattan/NYC while gowning up. In about 1982, in moved to playing more "New Wave" artists especially from the UK.

nycWATCHnerd wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:10 pm

Mikkei4 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:11 pm ... Roxy Music who are probably still receiving royalty payments for their iconic Avalon LP and track.

You reference is just making me feel old...though cool because I know and have listened to the reference LP on vinyl when new. I was lucky enough to get WLIR in Manhattan/NYC while gowning up. In about 1982, in moved to playing more "New Wave" artists especially from the UK.

Roxy Music is my second thought associated with Avalon; reading The Mists of Avalon during my high school years is my first. I missed Roxy’s album until the mid-eighties. It was a college years discovery for me, thanks to my now-wife.

thomcat00 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:06 am
Roxy Music is my second thought associated with Avalon; reading The Mists of Avalon during my high school years is my first.

Marion Zimmer Bradley. Superb book. One of the first writers to take traditional mythology and invest the female characters with a bit of oomph and pizzazz and, most importantly, a brain. It’s good to see this being done for the great Greek cycles by writers like Pat Barker.

Roxy Music were a bit before my time. I remember my father playing Virginia Plain a lot on a compilation cassette, but I don’t know more than this.

Looks beautiful!

timepieces_and_bags wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:00 pm @thomcat00 - just one minor question and I hope I don’t sound too pedantic but is it “Adventure” or “Adventurer”?

The model name is finalized as “Adventure,” though there was discussion for adding the final “r” ultimately deemed too close to the Rolex model name.

The case back design is still being considered.

My personal opinion on naming bespoke projects, is that it personalises a design and limits the appeal, but being closer to 'Explorer' would probably be better if it had to have a name on the dial, plus perhaps the Automatic and/or 150m wording too with a pop of colour for additional interest.

I had another thought too, would the solid case back perhaps increase water resistance? If so, another USP might be an increase WR rating on the dial to denote this. It would further differentiate the watch from the standard C63.

MarkingTime wrote:I had another thought too, would the solid case back perhaps increase water resistance? If so, another USP might be an increase WR rating on the dial to denote this. It would further differentiate the watch from the standard C63.

I don't believe that CW would wish to have a C63 Sealander with a greater WR than their regular models of 150m.

Guy

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^^^And it really doesn't have any effect on WR these days. The thickness of the caseback is what matters.

The 2023 FLE had a solid caseback on the C63, but the WR was unaffected. So I think it would be the same here.

I like the changes for the new "C63 ADVENTURE", for now my difficult decision will be the C65 Dune Aeolian or the 2025 FLE.

By the way, I love reading the discussions on these new projects, it like watching someone herding a clowder of cats.

With the introduction of the 3-6-9 numbers in place of indices (here and on the original blue version) it makes the double index at the top look like an 11, to my eyes at least. And then I'm left wondering why there is an 11 at the top, not a 12. I think the design would be improved with a different shape index at the top, but perhaps not the triangle used in the Explorer, just to maintain some differentiation from that. Or even a 12 numeral could work?

I'm not trying to be critical, just making a hopefully constructive observation/suggestion.