My first CWL

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Re: My first CWL

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Hey Lamppo, sorry for your disappointment. That just sucks that the watch dropped on the floor. Hopefully, all will be ok. I don't have a C4, so I can't comment on the plastic feeling pushers.

I am not sure you are quite being fair though to condemn CW based on experience with 1 watch though, but then again, since it was your only CW, I guess you couldn't form it based on anything else yet. But you must know, all brands, even some of the most esteemed brands, have a defect every once in a while. I was looking at a Rolex a couple weeks ago and could hardly turn the bezel. I am not that familiar with their models, but I can't believe that was normal. If it was, there was no way I would consider buying it. So, I suspect somethign was wrong with that particular one.

It seems odd to me though that if you are into higher-end watches that you went with a quartz model.
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lamppo_the_GasFitter wrote:I also don’t thinks it’s a coincidence that some of the biggest “balloons” on this forum are yanks, and it’s a well known fact yanks love and treat with far too much reverence us Brits.

Well I think you’ll probably heard enough from me by now, I’ve got to be up in the morning to fix a boiler or two, with a bit of luck I’ll feel different in the morning.
I think we have heard enough from you now. There may well be balloons in here but your an arse with a post like that. Wether you are happy with your watch or not there was no reason to come in here and throw personal insults at people. You are more than welcome to criticise your watch as that is your right but insults are a different matter. It sounds like YOU are the balloon and probably dropped the damn thing with your big clumsy boiler fitter hands and now your peeved that your new toy is damaged ruining your 60 day return offer. Even if what you say genuinely happened that was no excuse to be insulting.

We have now heard enough from you and hopefully you wont be back in the morning because a moderator has closed your account. This " Brit " would certainly now ban your sorry arse if he could.

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President wrote:
Terminator 2 wrote:
lamppo_the_GasFitter wrote:I also don’t thinks it’s a coincidence that some of the biggest “balloons” on this forum are yanks, and it’s a well known fact yanks love and treat with far too much reverence us Brits.

Well I think you’ll probably heard enough from me by now, I’ve got to be up in the morning to fix a boiler or two, with a bit of luck I’ll feel different in the morning.
I think we have heard enough from you now. There may well be balloons in here but your an arse with a post like that. Wether you are happy with your watch or not there was no reason to come in here and throw personal insults at people. You are more than welcome to criticise your watch as that is your right but insults are a different matter. It sounds like YOU are the balloon and probably dropped the damn thing with your big clumsy boiler fitter hands and now your peeved that your new toy is damaged ruining your 60 day return offer. Even if what you say genuinely happened that was no excuse to be insulting.

We have now heard enough from you and hopefully you wont be back in the morning because a moderator has closed your account. This " Brit " would certainly now ban your sorry arse if he could.

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personal insults?, could you please point out who I personaly insulted and I will write to them personally and make a full whole hearted apology for any offence caused to them, or indeed there family. My advise, read, reflect, comment.

As for Clumsy boiler hands, I bet you wouldn't say that to the guy who comes round to fix your boiler when it broken, coz he'll turn round and walk straight back out again. I dont have big clumsy hands and I'm more than happy to post a picture of them if you so wish. And if I did 'drop the damm thing' do you really think I'd come on here and post what i have posted for 6 billion poeple to read, including the man who will decide if the watch is sorted or not, WAKE UP. What it boils down to you dont really have any valid points, so it you who has to resort to insults and wild incorrect accusations.
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Pulls up a chair, cracks open a new malt whiskey and a large bag of cashew nuts.....................

And sits back to watch the handbags fly.

Calm down guys, life is too short :)
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joerattz wrote:
It seems odd to me though that if you are into higher-end watches that you went with a quartz model.
If you were sticking your arm up old boilers all day long, would you wear a 1500 quid watch?

Well nor will I, you'd wear a watch that you could afford to replace ever couple of years when it gets nackered. Also, you need a chrono/stop watch for parts of the job, and before you all think, go for a £25 digi Casio, I ani't that sort of guy.
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Utterly magnificent, good going![/quote]

There are many words or turns of pharse you can use to describe this sort of post.

Back Slaping With The Pally Lads is about the least vulgar of them all.
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EcosseOz wrote:Pulls up a chair, cracks open a new malt whiskey and a large bag of cashew nuts.....................

And sits back to watch the handbags fly.

Calm down guys, life is too short :)
Agreed, except I like almonds not cashews.
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lamppo_the_GasFitter wrote:
joerattz wrote:
It seems odd to me though that if you are into higher-end watches that you went with a quartz model.
If you were sticking your arm up old boilers all day long, would you wear a 1500 quid watch?

Well nor will I, you'd wear a watch that you could afford to replace ever couple of years when it gets nackered. Also, you need a chrono/stop watch for parts of the job, and before you all think, go for a £25 digi Casio, I ani't that sort of guy.
Hey, based on what I have been told, I shouldn't even be wearing a nice watch while sitting at my desk! :lol:
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I live near Bolton and my boiler's on the blink, so I'm staying out of this one. :)

Lets all take a moment out gents. Whilst posted in possibly the heat of the moment I didn't see anything that wrong with the post... lets put it down to crushing disappoint and Lancastrian directness. I always find that when one person on a forum is on the other side of the fence it only serves to enflame the situation, so lets leave it here and let lamppo and Mr Ward sort it out between themselves.
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Lampo. Im not going to get into a lengthy argument with you because I will not lower myself. However you know you were wrong and you edited your post to suit once you saw the reactions it was getting. I did not quote what you said entirely before but in the interest of fairness I will now let the others judge it for themselves. I thought on reflection you might have come back with a different attitude at least towards your fellow forum members but it appears you have not. Of course the reaction from those who saw your original post before you edited it speak volumes. As Kip said to lash out to those who welcomed you is not in the spirit but that also speaks volumes as to your character. I am done with this thread and I am done with you. Your original post says enough and they can judge wether your attack was personal or not. I might have had a different view tonight if you had been man enough to apologise to everyone but I guess you are not.
lamppo_the_GasFitter wrote:WELL, its arrived. and I ain't impressed so far, the strap has popped out of the lugs and the watch fell to the floor, a tiled floor, and its been damaged and the chrono doesn't work, not sure if the chrono's not working because of the impact or just wasn't working from day one (tho its still day one).

I'm sending it back for warranty consideration, so I’ll reserve full judgement until then, but my over riding first impression, regardless of the strap/damage problem, and after reading quotes like 'puts my omega to shame', 'my watch costing 10times a CWL now looks cheap' well, two phases pop to mind, "you get what you pay for" and "you buy cheap you buy twice".

Yes the watch looks nice and eye catching, and yes I'm sure I'll not find a better looking watch for the money, and yes I’m a big fan of the little guy punching above his weight, and I ain't knocking Chris here, but the way some of you guys harp on about HOW GREAT CWL watches are compared to other 'high end' watches, I don’t think a lot of you know what your talking about when it comes to real quality, I know this post will rattle a few cages, and please don't miss my point, and just in case you have, I’m not saying its not worth the money, it is, and possibly a bit more, but I truly believe the CWL watches are talked up by some of the forum members, who are infatuated by the price, and the fact their collections can mushroom by 4 or 5 watches for less than £700 quid, plus the personal touch adds an a value that can’t be defined by pound notes.

Maybe I wouldn’t have wrote as strongly if the watch strap hadn’t popped, and I’m not saying Chris is making claims about his watches that aren’t true, but I really was expecting more, maybe I was expecting to much?

A couple examples that I notices straight away; the way the push buttons feel plastic, not that they are, but because the of the lack of defined 'metal moving metal' feeling when you push them makes the buttons feel cheaper that they are, and the way you get 60 clicks of the bezel per revolution and not 120 or more, not really sure I can put it into words other than, if you replaced the word London with the word Seiko you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference

I also don’t thinks it’s a coincidence that some of the biggest “balloons” on this forum are yanks, and it’s a well known fact yanks love and treat with far too much reverence us Brits, maybe I've been confusing looks with intrinsic quality and hoping for something better, this can easily be done when viewing via the web, but to do it when you have the goods in your hands, well it seems like a school boy error to me.

Well I think you’ll probably heard enough from me by now, I’ve got to be up in the morning to fix a boiler or two, with a bit of luck I’ll feel different in the morning, but the above reflects how I feel now, so its being posted.
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Re: My first CWL

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Let's stay on-topic, and discuss Lamppo's recent experience, without getting personal!
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T2


Yes, I now realise, after reflecting on it all day, and barely thinking about anything else, which can be very very dangerous thing to do in my line of work, I do truely believe, on my part, and I only have myslef to blame, it was indeed, a big big mistake to edit my original post.
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Re: My first CWL

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Strap not fitted properly
Chronograph doesn't work, maybe related to being dropped on the floor (see above)
Buttons feel "plastic"

Find another £150 watch with only this many problems - and then see what the manufacturer does when you complain.

CW will bend over backwards to fix this for you - Seiko won't.
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President wrote:Strap not fitted properly
Chronograph doesn't work, maybe related to being dropped on the floor (see above)
Buttons feel "plastic"

Find another £150 watch with only this many problems - and then see what the manufacturer does when you complain.

CW will bend over backwards to fix this for you - Seiko won't.
"I'm sending it back for warranty consideration, so I’ll reserve full judgement until then"

Will you please read the words I wrote, either that or appoint a better indignation Co-ordinator
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lamppo_the_GasFitter wrote:reserve full judgement until then
You've reserved judgement!? You've judged your way into a corner already!