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Re: July Sale 2024 Thread

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nycWATCHnerd wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:02 pm
rkovars wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:18 pm Grabbed the C63 39mm Bader bracelet. Did I need it? No. Was 50% off too good to pass? Most definitely.
Be mindful of the generation...it appears the newer are more expensive and easier to use...so did you pay 50% of which price?

$220 Pin and Collar
$255 Dual Screw
$270 Single Screw
The single screw bracelet is not used on the C63 Sealander.

The one currently being offered on the UK site at £92.50 is half price of £185 ($220 in USA?) and, yes, has the pin & collar. It also has the shorter 37mm clasp with only 6mm (quite enough) micro-adjustment.

I think you'll find it also has less taper than the single screw version; which I'll try and confirm shortly. EDIT 22:51hrs - as I thought the pin & collar bracelet has less taper being 20mm > 18mm with a 20mm clasp.


Screenshot 2024-08-05 at 21-09-42 C63 Sealander Bader- 39mm - Nearly New Christopher Ward.png

Personally, I'm quite happy with the pin & collar, as I'll only set it once, especially if it saves me a load of £££. :wink: :wink:

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Re: July Sale 2024 Thread

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:17 pm
nycWATCHnerd wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:02 pm
rkovars wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:18 pm Grabbed the C63 39mm Bader bracelet. Did I need it? No. Was 50% off too good to pass? Most definitely.
Be mindful of the generation...it appears the newer are more expensive and easier to use...so did you pay 50% of which price?

$220 Pin and Collar
$255 Dual Screw
$270 Single Screw
The single screw bracelet is not used on the C63 Sealander.

The one currently being offered on the UK site at £92.50 is half price of £185 ($220 in USA?) and, yes, has the pin & collar. It also has the shorter 37mm clasp with only 6mm (quite enough) micro-adjustment.

I think you'll find it also has less taper than the single screw version; which I'll try and confirm shortly.

Personally, I'm quite happy with the pin & collar, as I'll only set it once, especially if it saves me a load of £££. :wink: :winK;

Guy
This full price listing appears to be the single sided screw version for the C63 Sealander 39mm:
https://www.christopherward.com/int/wat ... nical-data
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nycWATCHnerd wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:02 pm
rkovars wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:18 pm Grabbed the C63 39mm Bader bracelet. Did I need it? No. Was 50% off too good to pass? Most definitely.
Be mindful of the generation...it appears the newer are more expensive and easier to use...so did you pay 50% of which price?

$220 Pin and Collar
$255 Dual Screw
$270 Single Screw
I know exactly what I bought. Thanks. And yes, it is the pin and collar version. And yes, it was 50% off RRP. I didn't need it since I already own the same bracelet. But since I own 3 39mm Sealanders, it seemed like having another one around wouldn't be bad, especially for the price.

I've never felt screws were a premium option and were just an excuse for the big houses to charge $1k and up for a bracelet. After nearly 35 years of owning and wearing watches (some high end) I have never had a pin and collar fail. Had several screws fall out. Had one that were over torqued (and no it wasn't the Loctite - the AD had to order in a new bracelet on a brand new watch because they couldn't size it). With my bracelet pliers it takes literally 5 minutes to size a pin and collar bracelet and then I never deal with it again.

Split pins are a different story but that isn't what we are talking about.
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rkovars wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:49 pm With my bracelet pliers...
Didn't know there was such a thing, I do now ( :thumbup: ) and so, I have a pair on their way.
The silly little tray thing with plastic blocks that I had been using, will have to be repurposed.

Anyway, as you were.

"July Sale 2024 Thread" Continues...
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MarkingTime wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:31 pm
rkovars wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:49 pm With my bracelet pliers...
Didn't know there was such a thing, I do now ( :thumbup: ) and so, I have a pair on their way.
The silly little tray thing with plastic blocks that I had been using, will have to be repurposed.

Anyway, as you were.

"July Sale 2024 Thread" Continues...
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Re: July Sale 2024 Thread

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nycWATCHnerd wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:27 pm
This full price listing appears to be the single sided screw version for the C63 Sealander 39mm:
https://www.christopherward.com/int/wat ... nical-data
Ah ha; you got me! :lol: :lol:

Perhaps I should offer a little more info which, in haste, I didn't put in my earlier post. :oops: :oops:

Within the Admin Team we have a 'Bracelet Tech Breakdown' from CW dated Feb 29th, 2024. I was working from this when making my earlier post.

However, it appears that CW has introduced a new bracelet for the C63 Sealander, that's not on the Tech Breakdown we have, as you have linked, 20-STL-24-SXS-MA1 with 'increased taper' (probably 20mm > 16mm with 18mm clasp) and single screws, that looks like it replaces the earlier 20-STL-16-SXS-MAW twin screw version with 'increased taper'.

One factor on this, looking at the photos on the website, is that this new single screw bracelet, still appears to have the longer 43mm clasp giving 5 clicks of micro-adjustment over 10mm of the earlier one; whereas the pin & collar bracelet (bought by @rkovars ) has the shorter 37mm clasp, but only tapers 20mm > 18mm, with 20mm clasp (I checked the bracelet I have of this spec).

Make sense?

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Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:50 pm
nycWATCHnerd wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 9:27 pm
This full price listing appears to be the single sided screw version for the C63 Sealander 39mm:
https://www.christopherward.com/int/wat ... nical-data
Ah ha; you got me! :lol: :lol:

Perhaps I should offer a little more info which, in haste, I didn't put in my earlier post. :oops: :oops:

Within the Admin Team we have a 'Bracelet Tech Breakdown' from CW dated Feb 29th, 2024. I was working from this when making my earlier post.

However, it appears that CW has introduced a new bracelet for the C63 Sealander, that's not on the Tech Breakdown we have, as you have linked, 20-STL-24-SXS-MA1 with 'increased taper' (probably 20mm > 16mm with 18mm clasp) and single screws, that looks like it replaces the earlier 20-STL-16-SXS-MAW twin screw version with 'increased taper'.

One factor on this, looking at the photos on the website, is that this new single screw bracelet, still appears to have the longer 43mm clasp giving 5 clicks of micro-adjustment over 10mm of the earlier one; whereas the pin & collar bracelet (bought by @rkovars ) has the shorter 37mm clasp, but only tapers 20mm > 18mm, with 20mm clasp (I checked the bracelet I have of this spec).

Make sense?

Guy

Yes, and...Does the pin and collar bracelet with the smaller clasp have "on-the-fly-easy-adjust" or is the micro-adjustment the kind that needs a tool to adjust?
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The tool-free micro adjust has been around for a while. I can't remember the last time I saw an old style spring pin type, probably on my C61's in fact.
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@nycWATCHnerd - it's the same 'on the fly' (except you have to take the bracelet off your wrist :wink: ) thumbnail, ratchet micro-adjustment, as all current CW bracelets have.

CW moved on from the 'classic' micro-adjustment that you need a tool to adjust a spring bar for c. 8 years ago.

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C63 Sealander GMT COSC Special Edition on the sale page if anyones after one. Might be the one I returned :D
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mrfield wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:15 am C63 Sealander GMT COSC Special Edition on the sale page if anyones after one. Might be the one I returned :D
It's gone.

They fixed the issue with the Pro 600 listings but only if you purchase in US currency. When I switch to GBP, the listing issue shows up again.
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Whole bunch added including some 300's.
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As previously noted, USD count differs from GBP: 42 items listed in dollars while only 27 show in Sterling, mostly the Pro 600s.
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thomcat00 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:33 pm As previously noted, USD count differs from GBP: 42 items listed in dollars while only 27 show in Sterling, mostly the Pro 600s.
I was trying to pay in GBP to save the 10% currency buffer CW (and other brands) put into their MSRP to deal with currency fluctuations.
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nycWATCHnerd wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 4:11 pm
thomcat00 wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:33 pm As previously noted, USD count differs from GBP: 42 items listed in dollars while only 27 show in Sterling, mostly the Pro 600s.
I was trying to pay in GBP to save the 10% currency buffer CW (and other brands) put into their MSRP to deal with currency fluctuations.
You can search in USD, add items to your basket, then switch the currency to GBP for your check out. There is a bit of savings for American buyers that way. Apparently not so generous a difference for CAD or AUD.

My post was the display discrepancy between the currencies. If you’re browsing in USD v. GPB before you add to your basket, the USD view sometimes shows more available items. No idea why. I raised it with CW, but in the year since I pointed it out it has not been fixed.

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