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Hello CJMZ

I have a C40 7750 and a C60 2824-2 if i hand wind it 6 times in position 1 the seconds hand will start to move, as for your Trident it may well have a sellita sw200 movement but im pretty sure it should start moving after 6 turns ( in position 1)

perhaps try a PM to a senior members with quite a few Cw,s for their advise on this matter, it may help.

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Once wound 5 turns pull crown out set time ...push crown in seconds hand starts ...watch runs...Gently rock watch back & forth a few times...place on wrist. Watch runs forever :D
Less than this....I think you have a Baume&Merceir :(
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At the risk of looking like a fish out of water, and rightfully so, what direction should it be wound in? I've been winding it towards the 6'o clock position on the dial, it clicks each time I rotate it. I haven't tried rotating it towards the 12'o clock position and seeing what happens. I will have to let the watch wind down beforehand. Although the crown doesn't click, it does move in a almost gritty and slow manner.

What do you think?
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Relax ol'boy...what you are experiencing is normal.

In a perfect world, I suppose, if you wind it that would be enough to get it going. What is said here is the best way to say it.
robinbarke wrote:I think I can see what is going on here. If you wear the watch to wind it you are not only winding but you are activating the escapement. If you simply hand wind without any other movement of the watch it is quite possible it will not spontaneously start. Having to give a gentle shake after hand winding is quite normal. Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't!!

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As I wear a different watch every day, I experience your percieved problem with other brands as well as CWL. Relax and don't look for something to worry about! Enjoy your watch...all seems well.
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Wind towards 12.
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Hello CJMZ,

I did a reply to this earlier, but for some unknown reason it never appeared.
Firstly there were some issues with early selitta SW200 movements. The winding gears were prone to bending and/or distortion. This however was addressed with the release of the SW200-1 movement and that has been out for some time now. I'm pretty sure Chris uses the SW200-1 calibre in his watches, but can't confirm this.
Is your watch new(and if so, has it been like this since new?)?
Have you noticed that it has become harder or easier to wind, from when you first wound it?

I'm sorry I can't compete with the technical experts at Christopher Ward, but in my experience I have only encountered this a couple of times with any of my watches, and it is the exception rather than the norm.

i know a proportion of Invicta watches had problems with their winding gears using the early SW200 calibre, but they (Invicta) were very early adopters to this movement.

I know it must be unsettling to think that there may be a fault with your cherished watch, but if you asked to have it physically checked by the technicians at CW - They probably would oblige. Sometimes the 'belt and braces' approach is the best one, and have no doubt it would put your mind at rest.
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CJMZ wrote:At the risk of looking like a fish out of water, and rightfully so, what direction should it be wound in? I've been winding it towards the 6'o clock position on the dial, it clicks each time I rotate it. I haven't tried rotating it towards the 12'o clock position and seeing what happens. I will have to let the watch wind down beforehand. Although the crown doesn't click, it does move in a almost gritty and slow manner.

What do you think?
Uh Oh!!

Ignore my last reply - WIND TOWARDS 12. You don't need to wait for it to wind down - There is a clutch to prevent overwinding. Take Kip's advice RELAX O'l BOY.
I certainly need to after reading that one (only joking - I don't think you'l have any problems now)
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CJMZ wrote:At the risk of looking like a fish out of water, and rightfully so, what direction should it be wound in? I've been winding it towards the 6'o clock position on the dial, it clicks each time I rotate it. I haven't tried rotating it towards the 12'o clock position and seeing what happens. I will have to let the watch wind down beforehand. Although the crown doesn't click, it does move in a almost gritty and slow manner.

What do you think?
I think you are winding it the wrong way. :)

Wind it towards 12, and it will start the watch. :)
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Bloody hell, here I am sitting in the beautiful sunshine, having a look at my watch, and giving it a wind...counterclockwise, feeling pretty great about the nice click and smoothness of the crown, when infact I was rotating it the wrong way?

Is there enough palms in the world to plant my face in?

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CJMZ wrote:Bloody hell, here I am sitting in the beautiful sunshine, having a look at my watch, and giving it a wind...counterclockwise, feeling pretty great about the nice click and smoothness of the crown, when infact I was rotating it the wrong way?

Is there enough palms in the world to plant my face in?

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Don't worry about it. At least there's nothing wrong with the watch, after all. :)

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They invented a special sign on the USS Enterprise for this :

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CJMZ wrote:... Even more so with now that I've learned the SW-200 had winding issues, apparently the alloy used for the wheels was inferior and would not hold up under manual winding and the stress caused by it...
That's interesting information, I'd not heard it before.
Woodell wrote:Wind towards 12.
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very entertaining thread,
we've all had these 'DOH!!' moments
my fave recently seen is a chap we wrote in most angrily to another forum complaining that the plexiglass on his new Steinhart was 'blotchy' ...his next post was pleading to have the thread deleted as he now realised what he initially saw as a faulty crystal was in fact the protective plastic film! :lol:
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