How accurate is your Malvern Automatic?

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How accurate is your Malvern Automatic?

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In the last 72 hours (this is for how long I own it) my watch gained 46 seconds. It comes to an average of +15 sec/day.
I'm not trying to compare its accuracy to a quartz, but isn't it a little bit too much... I have no previous experience with automatics. Do they have a break-in period after which they stabilize? I'm just wandering, what is the accuracy of your timepiece?
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Since no one else has answered, I'll give it a go. While +15 sec. a day seems a tad high, from what I've read on the innanet, it'll take approx. a month for your new movement to "settle down". While your new watch is breaking in you may notice a small +/- varience in time keeping. This is apparently normal.

I'm going to post a couple links for you. One will provide a little background on 2824-2 movement and what an excellent choice it is for a watch. It's a watchmakers site so there might be some ads. Do not feel obligated to buy anything.

The second link is to a timezone article. I haven't read it yet but the title will be self explanitory. I wasn't giong to post it because they've temorarily banned our beloved forum founder Hans. In the interest of helping another CW owner I will overlook their douche baggery.

Remember, Koysta, Google is your friend.

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http://www.masterwatchmaker.net/page_50.asp


http://www.timezone.com/library/archive ... 5854316706


Edit: One more link. http://chronocentric.com/watches/troubl ... ml#starved
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Post by Hans »

@Kostya, where you wearing the watch during the time? El Tiempo is right, it is best to let a new watch run for a few weeks. However, my Malvern was also running fast, and I didn't have the patience, so I did some small regulation myself, and now the watch is running < +3 sec a day, that is excellent in my opinion. If the watch is not on my wrist, it is running a bit faster, about +6 or +7 a day...
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El Tiempo, Hans, thank you for reply and links to the good resources of information.
It looks like automatics do have a break-in period; just as I suspected. I'll give it several weeks to settle down. Time will tell (pun intended :wink: )
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El Tiempo wrote:...The second link is to a timezone article. I haven't read it yet but the title will be self explanitory. I wasn't giong to post it because they've temorarily banned our beloved forum founder Hans. In the interest of helping another CW owner I will overlook their douche baggery....
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Hans wrote: so I did some small regulation myself, and now the watch is running < +3 sec a day, that is excellent in my opinion. If the watch is not on my wrist, it is running a bit faster, about +6 or +7 a day...
Hans, perhaps you should post how you adjusted your watch. I'm sure this would be informative as well as entertaining.

In one of the links above it's described how to find what position to leave your watch in overnight. If you find a position that that loses 3 sec. a day you'd have an extrememly accurate watch.

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Mine, when I got it was gaining a hell of a lot. I got the tools out and adjusted it myself, now it's within acceptable limits.
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Post by Warhol »

My watch gains !15!+ seconds a day :o
How can I adjust my watch?
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Post by Hans »

Whow, there are certainly a lot of Malverns > +15 a day! I'll try to post in detail how you can adjust the caliber that is used in the Malvern, but remember, it is always better to let the adjustment perform by a qualified watchmaker!!
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Okay, 1st 24 hours, +8 seconds. Standard.

I'm storing it 12 up tonight to see how much time, if any, is lost.


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I got my watch on December 9 and out of the box it was running about +15-16 sec/day. My experience with about a dozen new mechanical watches is that the rate out of the box does not change very much so I made an adjustment by moving the index 1 mark toward the (-) side. That brought it to about +8sec/day so I moved it an additional 1/2 mark. Now it's running +1 to + 2sec/day. It actually looses about 1sec while wearing during the day for 16 hours and gains 2 or 3 sec overnight (DU position).

It's not hard to do but if you are not confident I would not advise you to try it. Have your friendly jeweler do it. Also make sure that you use the correct screwdriver to do the work otherwise it will be VERY easy to scratch the case.
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Bob Demers wrote: ...so I made an adjustment by moving the index 1 mark toward the (-) side. That brought it to about +8sec/day so I moved it an additional 1/2 mark (DU position).
What is "index". Is that a tiny screw between + and - marks?
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..I probably should have said, "turn the regulator screw 1 index mark".

See picture.

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Or have a look at the way I do it:

http://christopherward.nl.eu.org/viewtopic.php?t=22
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..I probably should have said, "turn the open end of the Regulator Screw 1 Index Mark toward the (-)."

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