Future CW classics

MistaFroggyG · Post by **MistaFroggyG** » Sat Aug 26, 2023 8:46 pm

ajax87 wrote:
MistaFroggyG wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:16 am My vote is for the Moonglow and the Bel Canto. The Moonglow might be the oldest model in the current lineup, I could be missing something but I’m not sure if there’s a watch that’s still for sale that was released before it.
In the latest issue of Loupe, there’s a whole article about the moonglow. Mike France says it’s one of the best selling models, and they plan on continuing to produce it into the future with minimal tweaks. That bodes well for a future classic!

Loupe also teases a new moonglow model to be released this October. I’m excited for that.

I’d definitely be excited to see what a new Moonglow might be

golfjunky · Post by **golfjunky** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:57 am

strapline wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:27 pm
Caller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:02 pm Whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy.
I guess when this is your viewpoint the subject of future classics is somewhat moot. Nothing really further to add...

Des

Which is why this thread should prob be renamed to CW Forum future classics.

strapline · Post by **strapline** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm

strapline wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:27 pm
Caller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:02 pm Whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy.
I guess when this is your viewpoint the subject of future classics is somewhat moot. Nothing really further to add...

Des

I have had to return to this post because I find it remarkable that on a Christopher Ward forum it went without any further comment. There are a great many people on here that are clearly very fond of CW indeed, perhaps owning or having owned in excess of ten watches by the brand. For my part, I don't own one; have never even seen one in the flesh. I'm on this forum for the wider watch discussion. This said, I take great interest in the CW evolution and how they've fired a shot across the bow of traditional Swiss watchmaking. I think they have produced some wonderful watches in the time I've been keeping an eye on their progress. If I owned one of their watches and someone said, 'whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy,' I'm pretty sure I'd have something to say about that. But, as it stands, that's not my argument to fight. Personally I wouldn't allow a watch on my wrist that was just decent, that just sounds so vanilla or beige.

Forums really are funny places.

Des

MistaFroggyG · Post by **MistaFroggyG** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 2:19 pm

I’m not sure what you’re expecting to happen. If a thread is “What’s your favorite cheeseburger?” and someone comments “I don’t like any cheeseburgers” then there’s not a discussion to be had there.

Some other brands have defenders that will adamantly attempt to convince you that you’re wrong if you think that their veblen good is anything but the best. I’m happy we don’t have that here.

There’s plenty of examples in this thread of what people think are iconic watches from the brand.

Paaashaas · Post by **Paaashaas** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:37 pm

scooter wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:05 pm This one will be a future classic for sure.

43B45973-832E-4C47-A067-004F64E1460E.jpeg

scooter

Hi Scooter didn’t see that before. Can you help me with a modelname of this watch? And what is it’s size? Looks great

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:20 pm

I think what CW needs is a watch with a long longevity to become a classic.

For example, I could see 50 years of Studio Underdog watermelon chronographs turning that into a classic, but it's only 2 years old now.

The BC could become an industry icon, couldn't it, in time. Maybe the moonglow also. That's the sort of thing. A stickered first edition of one of those might be like the Harry Potter first edition in a few years.

(Edit. The watermelon and the BC both in Andrew Morgan's hundred greatest watches)

The various CW divers, although not homages, are still generic divers. The pro 300 might become a classic CW, but hardly a classic watch. There's just so many divers around. I like my C65 handwounds best, but I don't have a BC or a moonglow. I'm looking forward to seeing the new moonglow iteration.

JAFO · Post by **JAFO** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:32 pm

strapline wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm
strapline wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:27 pm
Caller wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:02 pm Whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy.
I guess when this is your viewpoint the subject of future classics is somewhat moot. Nothing really further to add...

Des
I have had to return to this post because I find it remarkable that on a Christopher Ward forum it went without any further comment. There are a great many people on here that are clearly very fond of CW indeed, perhaps owning or having owned in excess of ten watches by the brand. For my part, I don't own one; have never even seen one in the flesh. I'm on this forum for the wider watch discussion. This said, I take great interest in the CW evolution and how they've fired a shot across the bow of traditional Swiss watchmaking. I think they have produced some wonderful watches in the time I've been keeping an eye on their progress. If I owned one of their watches and someone said, 'whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy,' I'm pretty sure I'd have something to say about that. But, as it stands, that's not my argument to fight. Personally I wouldn't allow a watch on my wrist that was just decent, that just sounds so vanilla or beige.

Forums really are funny places.

Des

I've just posted a thread featuring a Watchfinder / Andrew Morgan video of the Hundred Greatest Watches. I doubt I have more than one of them. I skipped part of it, so I'm not sure. The thing is, if you only collected classic watches, you would most likely have a small collection, and most likely spend a lot of money as well.

CW watches have provided me with a lot of value for my expenditure, and a lot of pleasure in wearing them, which is fine for me. I wish I could afford more, and I don't really feel that about most other brands.

strapline · Post by **strapline** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:03 pm

JAFO wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:32 pm
strapline wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm
strapline wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:27 pm

I guess when this is your viewpoint the subject of future classics is somewhat moot. Nothing really further to add...

Des
I have had to return to this post because I find it remarkable that on a Christopher Ward forum it went without any further comment. There are a great many people on here that are clearly very fond of CW indeed, perhaps owning or having owned in excess of ten watches by the brand. For my part, I don't own one; have never even seen one in the flesh. I'm on this forum for the wider watch discussion. This said, I take great interest in the CW evolution and how they've fired a shot across the bow of traditional Swiss watchmaking. I think they have produced some wonderful watches in the time I've been keeping an eye on their progress. If I owned one of their watches and someone said, 'whilst CW have produced some decent watches, very little stands out as noteworthy,' I'm pretty sure I'd have something to say about that. But, as it stands, that's not my argument to fight. Personally I wouldn't allow a watch on my wrist that was just decent, that just sounds so vanilla or beige.

Forums really are funny places.

Des
I've just posted a thread featuring a Watchfinder / Andrew Morgan video of the Hundred Greatest Watches. I doubt I have more than one of them. I skipped part of it, so I'm not sure. The thing is, if you only collected classic watches, you would most likely have a small collection, and most likely spend a lot of money as well.

CW watches have provided me with a lot of value for my expenditure, and a lot of pleasure in wearing them, which is fine for me. I wish I could afford more, and I don't really feel that about most other brands.

I like what you say in your second paragraph. The first sentence is the nuts and bolts of this whole thing for a lot of people. And, I would imagine, a lot of what CW produces stands out as noteworthy if for no other reason than for the value it represents.

Des

MistaFroggyG · Post by **MistaFroggyG** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:39 pm

I also think that sums it up nicely. I love my 36mm Sealander, I can’t imagine ever letting it go. I think it’s perfect.

But I do not think it’s a watch that will be remembered as iconic. Maybe that’s because the icons of that style are already defined by other brands.

scooter · Post by **scooter** » Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:57 am

Paaashaas wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:37 pm
scooter wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:05 pm This one will be a future classic for sure.

43B45973-832E-4C47-A067-004F64E1460E.jpeg

scooter
Hi Scooter didn’t see that before. Can you help me with a modelname of this watch? And what is it’s size? Looks great :thumbup:

Here are all the details for you.

https://cwarchive.knack.com/cwarchive/# ... e74fb95dc/

scooter

Paaashaas · Post by **Paaashaas** » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:20 pm

scooter wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:57 am
Here are all the details for you.

https://cwarchive.knack.com/cwarchive/# ... e74fb95dc/

scooter

Cool, thank you. I also see the name of the watch now.

“Numbered 1-50, this watch is known as the Blue Scooter, honouring "Scooter", the winning designer.”

Really cool to have it named after you

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rkovars · Post by **rkovars** » Thu Aug 31, 2023 5:35 pm

MistaFroggyG wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:39 pm I also think that sums it up nicely. I love my 36mm Sealander, I can’t imagine ever letting it go. I think it’s perfect.

But I do not think it’s a watch that will be remembered as iconic. Maybe that’s because the icons of that style are already defined by other brands.

It depends on your perspective. There are genre classics and then there are watches you immediately think of when you think of a brand. A brand classic if you get my meaning. Certain watches could be both like the Speedmaster. There are a few watches that immediately make me think CW.

The Sealander might never be remembered by everyone as iconic but it could be remembered as such inside the CW sphere.

ralfybaby · Post by **ralfybaby** » Fri Sep 08, 2023 4:48 pm

"Classic" is of course relative for a company like CW who do not populate the same pond as say a Speedmaster, a Datejust or a Royal Oak or a Navitimer or a Portugueser.
But within the CW pond I think the earlier Tridents with the quirky hands and the old CW logo stand out. I never got one of those when they came out-I should have- but did not realise that CW would keep changing its lines so often.
I appreciate that "a classic" and "my personal favourite" are not necessarily synonymous but I nevertheless nominate the C65 Pepsi GMT which I think is one of CWs all time best releases

And I am somewhat surprised that the C1 Grand Malvern Worldtimer gets mentioned so little. One of the first more complicated CWs IIRC.

MarkingTime · Post by **MarkingTime** » Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:26 pm

strapline wrote: ↑Fri Aug 18, 2023 3:01 pm
Go on, wrack your brains. I'm sure we'll see some repetition, but I've no doubt some dark horses too.

Des

The C20 Lido date only or no date
The C65 that never was - the C65 Classic 38mm, onion hands et al.
The C60 MKII

I can't think of much else that could be considered classic as most models are very transitionary and 'a la mode', perhaps the C63 Sealander three handers, if they can remain largely unchanged.

strapline · Post by **strapline** » Wed Sep 13, 2023 7:32 am

First off, thanks for all the replies to this thread, I wasn't sure it would get the replies it has, appreciate the response.

When I wrote the initial post, when I spoke of 'classics' I was thinking more in terms of vertically from within CW's archive of watches. So I wasn't thinking of comparing what CW has offered to other established classics from other watchmakers (horizontally). I suppose I was thinking what has disappeared from the CW line up, maybe having appeared when they were were a fledgling company. Or, what have they made in the last few years that might come to the end of its production run, but would be great to revisit much further down the line should CW still be in existence.

As always, when you're discussing anything's merits or failures, you need to be comparing things of similar quality, price etc for the argument to be in any way valid. Comparing a Rolls Royce to a Mini is a somewhat ridiculous discussion, I think this sometimes gets waylaid in watch discussions.

Des

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