Macdaz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:41 amThose Dartmouths properly got my attention! I’m still looking for something that I don’t have for my big birthday next year. On the list are white/light dial, bronze or an LE. If I could get all three in one that would be amazing! Good work to those on the Tridents, but none of them interest me at all, I just see different coloured Tridents. But, to my eyes that Dartmouth is a whole different proposition.

Yes. I hear you... I'm not feeling the C60s either. Actually I'd rather have a C60 red/black 40mm FLE if that's what it took to get one made! But right now I am Team Dartmouth or nothing. This moving forward will determine if my next purchase is a C65 Vintage or not.

How about a Dartmouth with a fixed bezel (from the 41mm Cranwell)?

This thread poll suggest 70 people would be interested in a watch like this.
Casual, elegant and rugged CW explorer watch: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49979

StrappedUp wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:05 am

jvspin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:28 am Is it possible to make a Dartmouth in the blue PVD and without minute markers on the bezel?

It is possible and in fact, I've already done it within my Photoshop file.
It doesn't look right imho ... vintage looking watch with a modern, blue PVD finish.
Plus, the PVD is covered by the C60 above.

If any more members request it I'll post it here, but I'm conscious of bogging down the thread with too many variants.

Thanks for the great photo shop work Ryan and I understand your position on the Dartmouth in blue.
I like the looks of the C60 in blue PVD but since I already have a C60 was more interested in the Dartmouth styling.

nordwulf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:14 pm How about a Dartmouth with a fixed bezel (from the 41mm Cranwell)?

This thread poll suggest 70 people would be interested in a watch like this.
Casual, elegant and rugged CW explorer watch: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49979

I’ve been after an ‘aqua terra type’ CW for a while, but a date is an absolute must for me.

nordwulf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 7:14 pm How about a Dartmouth with a fixed bezel (from the 41mm Cranwell)?

This thread poll suggest 70 people would be interested in a watch like this.
Casual, elegant and rugged CW explorer watch: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49979

It's not bad, it probably drops into a strong second place for me, but there is something not quite right to my eyes. I think there may be just a bit too much bezel! It maybe the effect of the bracelet meaning there is just too much stainless steel. Might look nice on a vintage brown strap, but then it would make me think of my Smiths Everest. That's not a bad thing, but for me, I'm not sure it's special enough.

Date at 6 would be nice on the no-number dial.

nordwulf wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:46 pm Date at 6 would be nice on the no-number dial.

It’s nice, Frank, but not ‘FLE Nice’ I don’t think.

I wonder what Nordwolf’s would look like with numbers rather than batons (apart from big triangle).

Or even a California dial

Magnus wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:41 pm I wonder what Nordwolf’s would look like with numbers rather than batons (apart from big triangle).

Or even a California dial

On the date version I’d get rid of the big triangle and use numbers at 12, 3 and 9. Plus, maybe, a coloured second hand tip?

I’d never buy a California dial as I don’t like Roman numerals.

Personal view:

Nordwulf, isn't your Dartmouth with a fixed bezel from the Cranwell effectively a C65 Cranwell? That's what the Cranwell case is - the 41mm C65 case with a fixed bezel. But the Cranwell didn't make it to the final two watches. I appreciate that they have a Dartmouth-esque dial and handset, but without the rotating bezel they don't really feel like a Dartmouth, to me at least.

If someone put forward a design with a fixed bezel on the C60 I would make the same point. In that case, it would be more like a MkIII version of the old C65 Classic. But it wouldn't be a C60, even if the dial and handset were the same.

Yeah. I think the both pieces should remain with their respective bezels. Actually must remain - cost-wise. Bezel-less versions are nice but something to be suggested to CW as a main-line watch. Remember: These are small modifications to be made so the FLE is not crazy-expensive.

My personal top 3 of the mock-ups posted thus far:

Dartmouth 'Vintage' (Cream/Gold/Black/Red) by StrappedUp - This is just beautiful and classy. It really evokes the 1960s for me. It's obviously my pick to win.



C60 'Smoke' (Blue/Black/Yellow) by welshlad - I do love the contrast of the black bezel and the dial/case are uniquely CW. Combined with the yellow this really has a vibe of some of those great Oris limited editions.




C60 'Ombre' (Blue/White/Red) by politel - The ombre watches are not my favorite, but I'll say this is unique and cool. I think subtle hits of red could be added or something like making the lollipop black? It needs one little thing added but not quite sure.

welshlad wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:25 pm Personal view:

Nordwulf, isn't your Dartmouth with a fixed bezel from the Cranwell effectively a C65 Cranwell? That's what the Cranwell case is - the 41mm C65 case with a fixed bezel. But the Cranwell didn't make it to the final two watches. I appreciate that they have a Dartmouth-esque dial and handset, but without the rotating bezel they don't really feel like a Dartmouth, to me at least.

As far as I can tell, the Dartmouth and Cranwell cases are exactly the same. My design is just a Darthmouth with a fixed bezel. Bahnstormer said the dial and hands are the primary design elements of the Darthmouth. He didn't say anything about the bezel.

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:20 am .... but the design should include the hands and dial, which are the primary recognisable elements of the Dartmouth (which is what was voted for), as others aleady submitted have been

StrappedUp's cream dial design is the Dartmouth dial and hands with the C65 Trident Automatic case, bezel and bracelet so just as much a hybrid design of 2 watches like my design. So basically just a C65 Trident Automatic and that didn't make it to the final 2 watches either. I must say that hybrid C65 Diver/Dartmouth does look nice. Actually looks better than the Dartmouth because tat bezel is just too bust together with the dial markers, in my opinion.

I was going for something new and different, instead of the usual color changes. I would't pay $300 - $400 extra (including import duty to the USA) for just a Dartmouth with a different color scheme.

Devarika Woulf wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:47 am Yeah. I think the both pieces should remain with their respective bezels. Actually must remain - cost-wise. Bezel-less versions are nice but something to be suggested to CW as a main-line watch. Remember: These are small modifications to be made so the FLE is not crazy-expensive.

There wouldn't be any additional cost. Just put the fixed Cranwell bezel on the Dartmouth. I think a single steel bezel without the rotating dive bezel bits and pices will be less expensive anyways.

I think you're right, Frank. Aren't the all the 41mms divers using the same C65 case with different movements anyway?

I did notice the hybrid Dartmouth but I assumed it would use just the proper bezel if it were made. It makes me wonder if the cases are indeed the same could we simply pick and choose the bezels? Are they all interchangeable? Kip would have get back to us with that.