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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote:^^ It doesn’t sound as though membership means you’ll get one, merely that you’ll be eligible. There could be a feeding frenzy unless I’m reading it incorrectly.
That’s right. It certainly won’t guarantee being able to purchase.

Perhaps that’s a big part of it - the Alliance gets lots more membership and fees on top of the profits from the 50 watches.
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but I do appreciate what Fears is doing
A number of people have expressed this in one form or another. What exactly is it Fears “is doing?” I don’t pose that question as a snarky retort. I’m genuinely curious, as I know nothing about the brand/company. What’s their thing, exactly?
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jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 pm
but I do appreciate what Fears is doing
A number of people have expressed this in one form or another. What exactly is it Fears “is doing?” I don’t pose that question as a snarky retort. I’m genuinely curious, as I know nothing about the brand/company. What’s their thing, exactly?
I don't like the watch but I have huge respect for Nicholas Bowman-Scargill. During Covid his accountant advised him to let his staff go. He said he was adamant that as a family business he would keep his staff employed on full pay. Nicholas then took a 100% pay cut and the following day started working nights at a supermarket stacking shelves to keep the business going. As he says "Shelf stacker by night, watch company owner by day".

It's a shame the re-born Fears (it was originally his Grandfather's business I think) is out of my price range but I admire what Nicholas has achieved.
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jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 pm
but I do appreciate what Fears is doing
A number of people have expressed this in one form or another. What exactly is it Fears “is doing?” I don’t pose that question as a snarky retort. I’m genuinely curious, as I know nothing about the brand/company. What’s their thing, exactly?
Link to their history in my home city - https://www.fearswatches.com/pages/heritage
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Gripper wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:33 pm
jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 pm
but I do appreciate what Fears is doing
A number of people have expressed this in one form or another. What exactly is it Fears “is doing?” I don’t pose that question as a snarky retort. I’m genuinely curious, as I know nothing about the brand/company. What’s their thing, exactly?
Link to their history in my home city - https://www.fearswatches.com/pages/heritage
The Why section of the sites also gives some indication of the ethos behind the business -
https://www.fearswatches.com/blogs/our-values-ethos

Solid watches, with solid values. Just quite costly too!

Might be wrong but I am sure I read something a while ago about a brand not having any faulty returns and I think it might have been Fears as their quality checking is so thorough?
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RichM wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:26 pm I don't like the watch but I have huge respect for Nicholas Bowman-Scargill…
Gripper wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:33 pm Link to their history in my home city - https://www.fearswatches.com/pages/heritage
Ahhh. Thanks gentlemen. So is it fair to say it’s the ethos and history behind the company that people appreciate? It’s not something specific to watch design, innovation, or their business model we’re talking about.

I have a huge appreciation for the history that’s been revived and mad respect for what the founder did during Covid! Hats off to him! :clap:

The watch collaboration leaves me a bit cold though.
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A1soknownas wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:15 pm
Gripper wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:33 pm
jkbarnes wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 4:49 pm

A number of people have expressed this in one form or another. What exactly is it Fears “is doing?” I don’t pose that question as a snarky retort. I’m genuinely curious, as I know nothing about the brand/company. What’s their thing, exactly?
Link to their history in my home city - https://www.fearswatches.com/pages/heritage
The Why section of the sites also gives some indication of the ethos behind the business -
https://www.fearswatches.com/blogs/our-values-ethos

Solid watches, with solid values. Just quite costly too!

Might be wrong but I am sure I read something a while ago about a brand not having any faulty returns and I think it might have been Fears as their quality checking is so thorough?
I think you are right as well as having no watches returned or sold on either. That is what I remember anyway.
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There have been watches sold on by now though. But in the early days this was true.
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I have tried on Fears watches at a couple of events.

They were not at the top of my list of watches that I tried on during those events.

IIRC as well as talking to Nicholas at those events I also saw him when he was still a watchmaker at Rolex.

Great to hear what he did during Covid. I hope the company succeed.

However, my view is a watch that should be judged on its own merits, not by reference to a previous incarnation of the company many years previously. Warm fuzzy feelings about previous history have little relevance to what a company is currently doing.

If Moser made average watches, would folk say “ah but they have been around for since 1828, they are great”, when the current version of the brand only dates to 2005. Ditto Blancpain etc…

The new release? Yep I like the look of it, but would I pay more for it because it says Fears on the dial, than I would if it was a CW release? Absolutely not.

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I like elements of it but this watch is not one for me.
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nbg wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:50 pm Great to hear what he did during Covid. I hope the company succeed.

However, my view is a watch that should be judged on its own merits, not by reference to a previous incarnation of the company many years previously. Warm fuzzy feelings about previous history have little relevance to what a company is currently doing.

If Moser made average watches, would folk say “ah but they have been around for since 1828, they are great”, when the current version of the brand only dates to 2005. Ditto Blancpain etc…
Good points. Another consideration, especially with relatively expensive luxury items like watches, is that you do actually have to like the product. It’s hardly like choosing between Aldi bananas and Tesco bananas.

Now I do like this:

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But it wouldn’t compete with my Tank. The rest, including the collaboration watch, does little for me.
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Hmmm… It’s not Not nice, but I don’t think it beats their Jubilee Edition Brunswick… If I had 4k, I’d go hunt down one of those if I really wanted a Fears…

But in the real world, if I had 4k, I’d actually get myself a Moonglow, a Super Compressor, a bronze Aquitaine and a curry 😂
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Amor Vincit Omnia wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:43 pm
Good points. Another consideration, especially with relatively expensive luxury items like watches, is that you do actually have to like the product. It’s hardly like choosing between Aldi bananas and Tesco bananas.

Now I do like this:


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But it wouldn’t compete with my Tank. The rest, including the collaboration watch, does little for me.
Agreed on all points. That rectangular model is nice, but it can't beat my real vintage Longines and Gruen rectangles.
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I do like that Fears. I just had to find a review, as I didn't understand it. I thought the number at the top was a date, and now I see it's the hour, which I presume only goes up to 12, as the review didn't go past 12.

Anyway, I like the watch, but not £4000 worth of liking.

Maybe it's the colour I like, as it reminds me of the Heritage 57 Speedy in the deep red.

Here's the review, on oracle time, posted yesterday.

https://oracleoftime.com/fears-christop ... ch-review/
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JAFO wrote:I do like that Fears. I just had to find a review, as I didn't understand it. I thought the number at the top was a date, and now I see it's the hour, which I presume only goes up to 12, as the review didn't go past 12.

Anyway, I like the watch, but not £4000 worth of liking.

Maybe it's the colour I like, as it reminds me of the Heritage 57 Speedy in the deep red.

Here's the review, on oracle time, posted yesterday.

https://oracleoftime.com/fears-christop ... ch-review/
Yes - only goes up to 12. Same as the old CW Jump Hours.

And I’m glad you chose that review to post (which I wrote)
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