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Re: CWL Serial Number Explanation

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ctafield wrote:I can't even begin to understand the complexities of this... but... there are two C4's, both Swiss Movement, on the nearly new page, with the same number - 0032. Is this possible?

http://www.christopherward.co.uk/conten ... C4move.htm

One is a C4IPK, and the other is a C4SKK.

Unless, of course, it's a mistake on the web page.
The C4SKK is a typo...it is number 1032..i know 'cause i am waiting for CW to finish polishing it and stick it in the post :)
Wera clarified the number before i went ahead with the purchase.
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Thanks for that clarificaion village. :)
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Yeah but that doesnt explain the others already mentioned :lol:
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Ultimately who owns a watch is not important... but when it was built (not sold) and what movement it has and how many were built.
Exactly. If it is to be collectable the year of manufacture has to be known. For instance there is a big market now in birth year watches. I for one have one eye open on the lookout for a "66" Omega for myself.

Lets simplify the question that needs to be put to Chris.

Were the numbers reset to zero for the Swiss Made watches? If not then what is the reasons for the low numbered Swiss Made watches like the examples already mentioned?

Look I for one am not going to kick up a stink if they were reset. I dont care. The reason I dont care is that they are different watches ie one is Swiss Movt and the other is Swiss Made. We all know the Swiss Made started in August 2008 so if the numbers were reset then it can be explained. As far as I am aware there are no markings on or inside the cases so all we have to go by is those serial number. Explain the damn things once and for all Chris and then lets move on.

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Actually, to be precise, the owner's manual and certificate do not mention a serial number but a case number. Don't know if this is common in the word of watches?!
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Re: CWL Serial Number Explanation

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ctafield wrote:I can't even begin to understand the complexities of this... but... there are two C4's, both Swiss Movement, on the nearly new page, with the same number - 0032. Is this possible?

http://www.christopherward.co.uk/conten ... C4move.htm

One is a C4IPK, and the other is a C4SKK.

Unless, of course, it's a mistake on the web page.
My guess would be that each varyant of each model has it's own serial no'?!!

For instance, if you have a C4 IPK, no' 001 and a C4 SKK no' 001....then you have the first one of these two models!!

I don't think there is one lot of serial no' covering all C4's or any other model!!
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Monkey wrote:
ctafield wrote:I can't even begin to understand the complexities of this... but... there are two C4's, both Swiss Movement, on the nearly new page, with the same number - 0032. Is this possible?

http://www.christopherward.co.uk/conten ... C4move.htm

One is a C4IPK, and the other is a C4SKK.

Unless, of course, it's a mistake on the web page.
My guess would be that each varyant of each model has it's own serial no'?!!

For instance, if you have a C4 IPK, no' 001 and a C4 SKK no' 001....then you have the first one of these two models!!

I don't think there is one lot of serial no' covering all C4's or any other model!!

Read my post at the top of this page!
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Terminator 2 wrote:Yeah but that doesnt explain the others already mentioned :lol:
Kip wrote:
Ultimately who owns a watch is not important... but when it was built (not sold) and what movement it has and how many were built.
Exactly. If it is to be collectable the year of manufacture has to be known. For instance there is a big market now in birth year watches. I for one have one eye open on the lookout for a "66" Omega for myself.

Lets simplify the question that needs to be put to Chris.

Were the numbers reset to zero for the Swiss Made watches? If not then what is the reasons for the low numbered Swiss Made watches like the examples already mentioned?

Look I for one am not going to kick up a stink if they were reset. I dont care. The reason I dont care is that they are different watches ie one is Swiss Movt and the other is Swiss Made. We all know the Swiss Made started in August 2008 so if the numbers were reset then it can be explained. As far as I am aware there are no markings on or inside the cases so all we have to go by is those serial number. Explain the damn things once and for all Chris and then lets move on.

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These are CW's responses to the unanswered questions.......

[Kip]
In regards to your answers about the serial numbers you neglected to answer about what if anything changed when the change over to Swiss made happened. Was there any restart of numbers or was everything just continued where they left off?


[Chris]

Just continued where they left off


[Kip]
Regarding Terminators questions below, are there some anomalies here? Were these returns that had defective movements replaced?


[Chris] Normally if the cases are in tact after a return they are refurbished….this normally requires a new movement….the chances are these watches have therefore been re-assembled in Switzerland.
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OK, so I had a couple of questions about this. First, I understand that the C6s numbers aren't based on the colors. Do the C60s numbers restart at 0 with every new color though because it is a limited edition? Second, does anyone know the watch with the highest serial number thus far? I was just wondering what the most popular model was. Thanks.
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wymore wrote:OK, so I had a couple of questions about this. First, I understand that the C6s numbers aren't based on the colors. Do the C60s numbers restart at 0 with every new color though because it is a limited edition? Second, does anyone know the watch with the highest serial number thus far? I was just wondering what the most popular model was. Thanks.
The C60SO (orange dial) was numbered from 101-200 because it used some leftover cases from the 2008 Forum LE. Normally this would have been numbered 1-100 because it was a Limited Edition itself.

That being said...the C60SY (yellow dial) will be numbered from 1-200 becuse it too is a Limited Edition of 200 pieces.

Limited Editions carry their own serials because they are of there own or not part of a regular line.

As far as the highest serial numbers used to date.....I don't know for sure but I would expect that would be the C5.
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My highest serial number is 3888 for my C5RWR.

I have a C3 at 2563 and a C4 at 1896. The latest white C6 came in at 1624. So if all things are equal then the the C5 is the most popular which makes sense as the C5 and C3 were the first two to launch. On June 4th, 2005 according to the web site.

My lowest number is 0009 which is a green W6. But I am sure there are a few who can go lower.
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Interesting. I had always assumed that the C1 was the first for the obvious reason of it being called C1 and because it seemed to be the first one to go out of production. I had no idea so many C5s had been sold, and if I understand correctly, that number doesn't even include the aviators. Another question then is will the C5-Qs restart at 0001?
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Two cool serial numbers I've got : Blue C600 #0000 and Red C4 #100
Also had a C15 #11.
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So is the 0000 a mistake? Kip's original explanation made it sound like they always started with #1. A prototype perhaps?
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wymore wrote:So is the 0000 a mistake? Kip's original explanation made it sound like they always started with #1. A prototype perhaps?
Not a mistake......

Original prototypes have no numbers........pre production prototypes carry a 0000 number. These are the ones that are put thru final inspection for any last minute flaws or changes etc. to be made to production. Most times there is only one but sometimes can be more. The regular production run usually starts with #0001.

Btw...sorry I missed it but the C5Q will have its own serial numbers.

FYI - Chris has all original protoytpes and #1s (and 101) in his personal collection except for 4 of them.
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OK, did a search and found Bigvic's story on how he got that one http://www.christopherwardforum.com/vie ... ype#p52608. Did Wera ever find out how it ended up on Ebay in the first place?
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