CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Discuss Christopher Ward watches

Which model is the most significant introduction of 2012 for CWL?

Poll ended at Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:07 am

C3 Malvern chronograph MKII
0
No votes
C5 Malvern MKII
0
No votes
C5 Q Malvern MKII
0
No votes
C7 Rapide MKII
3
3%
C900 Harrison Single Pusher Chronograph
73
78%
C10 Aviator
1
1%
C11 Makaira Pro
12
13%
W60 Coral
2
2%
W90/900 Belisama
2
2%
W11 Amelia
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 93

User avatar
Tyke
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 5944
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm
CW-watches: 0

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Tyke »

jmarchitect wrote:
And that is one of the most cynical posts I have read this year. Rather than describe the voting as concluded, completed, finished, ended, drawn to a close or any of the myriad terms one could use, you have chosen to describe it as 'dead'. You really aren't a happy chappy are you Tyke old chap?

Careful what terminology you use people, we have a psychoanalyst in our midst :D .

Do you seriously believe that something else will come with a late flourish & overtake the C900?

It's not cynicism, it's realism & as the year is only 5 days old, it really wouldn't have much competition as 'cynical' post of the year should it have been cynical.
User avatar
ianblyth
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 10940
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:17 pm
CW-watches: 19
LE-two: yes
LE-three: yes
LE-foura: yes
LE-five: Yes
LE-six: Yes
Location: Wokingham, UK

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by ianblyth »

I don't think it is a matter of done deal. It is pretty obvious which model is going to win as most people do not change their votes. But I think it is a question about participating. In some of the polls I have voted for a model that was never going to win. You may call it futile but it is about expressing my preferences and joining in.
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin
User avatar
Tyke
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 5944
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm
CW-watches: 0

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Tyke »

ianblyth wrote:I don't think it is a matter of done deal. It is pretty obvious which model is going to win as most people do not change their votes. But I think it is a question about participating. In some of the polls I have voted for a model that was never going to win. You may call it futile but it is about expressing my preferences and joining in.

Well, if it reaches the 150 votes that kip wants, I'll be wrong & you guys will be right, so time will tell.
User avatar
ianblyth
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 10940
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:17 pm
CW-watches: 19
LE-two: yes
LE-three: yes
LE-foura: yes
LE-five: Yes
LE-six: Yes
Location: Wokingham, UK

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by ianblyth »

It is not about right or wrong. It would be nice if people participated but if they don't then that is their choice.
"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." Anais Nin
User avatar
Mr Rick
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 4001
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:25 pm
CW-watches: 17
Location: Southern California

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Mr Rick »

I would have voted for the 39mm, roman numeral dialed, hand winder, but it's not listed. :twisted:
Rick


Various vintage Heuers
CW C8 Pilot MK I and II, 2011 and 13 FLEs, C5 B of B and Malvern Aviator MK II, C11 MSL MK I, C70 DBR1, C60 and C60 GMT, C9 Harrison, C9 Chrono, C10 Aviator
User avatar
Amor Vincit Omnia
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 33788
Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:34 pm
CW-watches: 4
Location: Norfolk, UK

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Amor Vincit Omnia »

Mr Rick wrote:I would have voted for the 39mm, roman numeral dialed, hand winder, but it's not listed. :twisted:
Next Year in Jerusalem? :)
Steve
Linguist; retired teacher; pilgrim; apprentice travel writer

Take nothing but pictures, leave nothing but footprints, kill nothing but time


Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit. (Max Ehrmann)
User avatar
Tyke
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 5944
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm
CW-watches: 0

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Tyke »

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!

The contest is not ended/finished/concluded/etc - we've had another vote submitted today. :party:
only another 84+ needed :thumbup:

Blimey, those happy pills must be starting to work :wink:
User avatar
poppydoodlesdad
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 2352
Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:27 pm
Location: Nowhere, man

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by poppydoodlesdad »

In the spirit of participation I'm going to exercise my right not to vote!

I can't disagree with the arguments about the technical achievement represented by the C900 or even that it represents value in comparison to similar products from other brands. But I'm not so sure it represents the absolute affordability which CW has stood for in the past and it worries me vaguely about the direction the rest of the range might take. Also I am not convinced that this watch will necessarily have the most impact on CW in the longer term. Maybe among WIS types but in the longer term I think the expansion of the ladies range may prove more significant and as far as Poppydoodlesmum is concerned it is certainly more welcome.

However, it probably is going to make much difference to this competition. So I will keep an eye on proceedings and if a casting vote is needed..........
"You can get help from teachers, but you are going to have to learn a lot by yourself, sitting alone in a room." Dr. Seuss

Some watches
User avatar
Nealgar
Expert
Expert
Posts: 203
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:57 pm
CW-watches: 55
Location: London/Surrey

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Nealgar »

Has to be the C900 by a country mile!
Different class and will take the brand to a new level in my opinion
Neal
The question is do you take the blue pill or the red pill?
User avatar
akirk
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 3422
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:59 pm
CW-watches: 0

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by akirk »

poppydoodlesdad wrote:...But I'm not so sure it represents the absolute affordability which CW has stood for in the past and it worries me vaguely about the direction the rest of the range might take.
I agree with that logic - but think that perhaps there is a different slant...

If you consider CWL to be about proportional affordability rather than absolute affordability... then to me it makes sense :) i.e. it is about putting out high quality items at a realistic rather than inflated price - about proportional prices (i.e. take the 'market norm' and show how the same quality can be produced for a proportion of the price) - this means it doesn't matter whether they are doing this at the lower end / middle / upper end - with any part of the market, they are demonstrating a different balance of price / quality...

If this logic is correct, then perhaps the C900 more than any other of their range proves this point - it is the first watch to significantly demonstrate that their theory (reasonable price / high quality) can work even at the higher end of complexity etc...

until now, it has been possible to look at their range and perhaps say that their theory is fine for mid-price / low complexity / off-the-shelf movement watches etc. - that you can keep the price low by making it look nice and having good customer service - but that the high-end watches can justify their inflated prices because ultimately they are better / more complex / more sophisticated watches / because they have bespoke movements / etc.

the C900 blows that theory out of the water - doesn't it kill off that line of argument - by demonstrating that they can sell at this price point the type of watch that others argue needs to be 3 - 4 x the price they are absolutely planting their flag firmly in the ground and showing that their logic is right - any type of high quality watch you want without having to charge the inflated prices others charge...

therefore the C900 is the same theory as their other watches - but with the message louder / more absolute... and for the first time really pushing strongly into the territory of companies who charge a lot more and debunking the price / quality myth those brands propogate...

so for me - def. the C900 :)

Alasdair
Tracking Christopher Ward watch prices on ebay globally at Watchroll
Tracking Bremont watch prices on ebay globally at Watchtrace
User avatar
Kip
The Administrator
The Administrator
Posts: 35171
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:45 pm
CW-watches: 150
LE-one: yes
LE-two: yes
LE-three: yes
LE-foura: yes
LE-fourb: yes
LE-five: yes
LE-six: yes
LESeven: yes
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Kip »

Some excellent dicussion put forth here.

With respect to all.....

A forum is about participation. We do different things around many different topics. If interest wanes and people leave we have no forum.

The Watch of the Year has been well received since we started this a couple years ago. It is an opportunty to put forth your opinion by particpating in the voting. Regardless of the outcome, we want you to participate. If we don't have enough interest there is not much sense in having a vote.

I think the Watch of the Year vote, and the criteria for selection by the forum, is very important to the overall standing of the CWF and is good for CWL. CWL can use the result for PR and advertising which in turn gives the forum exposure and hopefully some new members who bring new life and new ideas to our "Asylum".

I think many people, last year, thought that the C9JH was going to run away with the vote...early on it did, yet in the end the C50 won. If more members participated...would the C9 have won? We will never know, but what is most important, as with any election, is to vote for your choice of the available candidates.

On the other hand...regarding participation....The Thread of the Year was something many wanted, yet interest seems to be down this year. Perhaps this would be something to not bring back. Perhaps this would be a subject for another thread.
Kip

"Asylum Administrator"


Visit the CWArchives for everything CW. Historical, specs, manuals and resale. It is all there.
User avatar
albionprs
Guru
Guru
Posts: 376
Joined: Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:48 pm
CW-watches: 1
LE-fourb: Yes
Location: West of Ireland with a real turf fire keeping us warm

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by albionprs »

poppydoodlesdad wrote:

Maybe among WIS types but in the longer term I think the expansion of the ladies range may prove more significant and as far as Poppydoodlesmum is concerned it is certainly more welcome.

I agree with your above comments above, hence I voted for the W90 Belisama Automatic. With the right advertising this could be a successful model for CW. A watch with the same spec is normally three times a much with the high street brands.
Life is always full of surprises
C60 - 300 Green, C65 Sandhurst; 1962 9ct Omega Auto; Tudor Black Bay GMT; Tag Heuer Monza; Omega Aqua Terra Blue; Rolex Explorer 114270
jlw41
Junior
Junior
Posts: 33
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2013 11:57 pm

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by jlw41 »

Had to go for the C900, even though I think the W90 and expansion in the women's market could be influential :)
User avatar
Kip
The Administrator
The Administrator
Posts: 35171
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:45 pm
CW-watches: 150
LE-one: yes
LE-two: yes
LE-three: yes
LE-foura: yes
LE-fourb: yes
LE-five: yes
LE-six: yes
LESeven: yes
Location: New Hampshire, USA

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Kip »

It seems that the C11 is making a mini run at the C900. 8)
Kip

"Asylum Administrator"


Visit the CWArchives for everything CW. Historical, specs, manuals and resale. It is all there.
User avatar
Tyke
Senior Forumgod
Senior Forumgod
Posts: 5944
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:47 pm
CW-watches: 0

Re: CWL 2012 Forum Watch of the Year

Post by Tyke »

Kip wrote:It seems that the C11 is making a mini run at the C900. 8)
Indeed...... only being outscored 11:1 now.

scooter summed it up perfectly very early on (but he didn't get pilloried for being 'cynical' :problem: )
scooter wrote:The Fat Lady stopped singing the moment this thread was posted.

C900.

scooter
  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post