CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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Hi All,
Looking for a nice automatic watch to replace my old siko chronograph, I thought this definateliy needed to be the CW C11, however, since daily looking at the worn&wound website I found another attractive watch. It's the Stolas BallCall Automatic, you can find it at http://www.stolaswatch.co/shop/products ... matic.html . It doesn't have an ETA movement but a Valjoux and the price is currently at $438.50 because it's a pre-order. Which one would you prefer ( I know stupid question at a CW forum) and do you think the Stolas is good value for money?

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Re: CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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Ok, it's not a Valjoux movement but a ValSwiss. Never heard of ValSwiss anybody does?
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downer wrote:This post is not from Tuzzaboy... :shock:
Nor is this one :-)

This is an easy call, it comes with a free matching T-shirt!

Buy it, Buy it Now, think of how great you'll look

Seriously though, I found this, look at the 8th post from one of the admins 'oagaspar'
http://www.timetechtalk.com/forum1/4470.html
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Thanks for the link. I became a little bit sceptic about the VAL abbreviation which is of course misleading to anyone who doesn't do any research (or know about this great forum.....). I'm for sure now not to look any longer for other quality and affordable watches then CW or Steinhart.
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Re: CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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Anyway, would you really want a Warthog on your wrist? :)
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Re: CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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Hmmm so you want a PVD, aero/ sports style, automatic watch for less than 500 quid.

How about a bird of prey on your wrist?
You could even call it kes!

Get your posts up to 30 (with class) and post a WTB for a C40IPK2, recently the average price of pre-owned looks to be around 350-400
and this definitely has a ETA Valjoux 7750 movement! :lol:

http://www.christopherward.co.uk/men/sp ... 0ipk2.html
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Sorry but don't want a chronograph. Want to have that clean look of 'just time', like the
- C11 PVD
- C8 vintage PVD (although not clean enough because of the secon marks and the too many hour numebers.

Like the Bell & Ross 123 the most but is too expensive. Finally I think I will go for the C11 PVD with C8 vintage strap. Like the small details of the C11 a lot. red mark at 3 and date at 4.
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Re: CW C11 PVD or Stolas BallCall Warthog+ Automatic?

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I have never heard of them and looking at the watch it seems OK but I would not want a watch called Warthog. :shock:

If it was a Valjoux it would be a bargain. Valjoux are part of ETA now. They say it has

STØLÅS Swiss cal:SDS-01 27 Jewel 3Hz 36hr movement

I presume when the say Swiss cal they are meaning it is of equivalent quality to a Swiss movement but isn't. That type of advertising puts me off.

A bit of searching and it looks like it is a Chinese ETA clone.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/info-s ... 29399.html
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I'm sorry but BallCall sounds like the name of an escort service. :thumbdown:
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Bit of a shame really - as Ian says, if it was a genuine Valjoux you could maybe get over it being called BallCall Warthog but probably not for a Chinese clone... :oops:
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Yes, I am glad I did some homework as well, even took the time to send them an email.

"The movement is an awesome Swiss movement not an ETA, but a complication made for us by the Val company". When asking about Val they replied: "The company is the VallSwiss company making our movements. They are a complication company".

So even at preorder price it's too expensive in my opinion. It's a pity, because I like the design, but also want value for money. Won't say it's a bad watch of course, but we are spoilt by CW and Steinhart.