15peter20 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:24 pm
There was a lot but it was a limited window so it was basically unlimited limited edition , I would like to know how many of these were sold. Will they or Andrew release that info at some point?

It was hinted at by Declan in my showroom appointment, I think it was up into or very near to 4 figures.

Given the release of the BC classic in Azzurro will we see the BC classic in AM red at some point? How limited is a limited edition in the world of CW?

^^^Normally a limited edition is between 200-300 pieces. The Andrew Morgan release was different as it wasn't really limited. It just had a limited order window.

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:31 pm ^^^Normally a limited edition is between 200-300 pieces. The Andrew Morgan release was different as it wasn't really limited. It just had a limited order window.

Which makes it a limited edition, not by number manufactured but by time to order and pay in full.
I doubt many that have purchased one would be happy to see the same red dial available on a ‘classic’ in a few months.

meinberg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:59 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:31 pm ^^^Normally a limited edition is between 200-300 pieces. The Andrew Morgan release was different as it wasn't really limited. It just had a limited order window.

Which makes it a limited edition, not by number manufactured but by time to order and pay in full.

That's a fair and reasonable point. Agreed.

meinberg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:59 pm I doubt many that have purchased one would be happy to see the same red dial available on a ‘classic’ in a few months.

Unless that 'Classic' were to be another CW x AMW collaboration. That would be fair game in my book, with 'The Red One' being synonymous with AMW.

As a rule, a Bespoke or Collaboration CW model with a unique colourway has, as far as I can recall, remained that; unique. I think back to the 2012 C60 'Scooter Blue' Forum LE; the blue used for that has never been repeated.

A CW LE is though, I feel, open to flexibility if the colour is used on a different model e.g. the Azzuro Blue used on the Bel Canto LE now being used on an open series Bel Canto Classic.

Guy

meinberg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:59 pm

rkovars wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:31 pm ^^^Normally a limited edition is between 200-300 pieces. The Andrew Morgan release was different as it wasn't really limited. It just had a limited order window.

Which makes it a limited edition, not by number manufactured but by time to order and pay in full.
I doubt many that have purchased one would be happy to see the same red dial available on a ‘classic’ in a few months.

It is semantics, I know, but I would call that closer to limited production. They could have sold 20 or 20k. I would say though that it is probably up to Andrew on what he wants to do with it.

meinberg wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:09 pm Given the release of the BC classic in Azzurro will we see the BC classic in AM red at some point? How limited is a limited edition in the world of CW?

I think it's inevitable that they will eventually release one in red at some point, which is of course annoying for me and those that bought one, especially as I think I will much prefer the guilloché dial on the new one along with the numerals. Given that the watch is at least a limited edition in some capacity it shouldn't be hard to sell it for hopefully retail or maybe even more.

Can the people who bought the red one send it back within the two month return policy? I guess they can. I'll wait to see how they both look in person before I make a decision.

Well here it is in the flesh on black.

It looks a flatter shade than the renders, less vibrant. Was hoping for more Burgundy. At least there's the 60 return period. Still a fan of the purple and the red beak...

Have they started shipping them now? It doesn't look as good as the renders but it's hard to tell from the pictures and they can often be misleading. I've bought watches online that looked great in pics and then very dull/lifeless when they arrived and also seen watches that didn't look great from the pictures but much better in person, so I'll wait to see mine in the flesh before I decide what I do with it as I have the new gold one on order also (but maybe that may disappoint in the flesh (or surpass expectations)). The colours can also vary depending on the lighting and camera quality. Some cameras and lighting can definitely do a watch no favours and again even the opposite in some cases. I've got a feeling they will release a red one of the newer Bel Canto at some point and the guilloché dial will probably make it superior alone so I might just wait for that (and I also don't know if I need two Bel Cantos haha).

Moneypit wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:21 pm Well here it is in the flesh on black.

It looks a flatter shade than the renders, less vibrant. Was hoping for more Burgundy. At least there's the 60 return period. Still a fan of the purple and the red beak...


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Great that they're already shipping. Sooner than I expected.

Thanks for the sharing your pic

Moneypit wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:21 pm Well here it is in the flesh on black.

It looks a flatter shade than the renders, less vibrant. Was hoping for more Burgundy. At least there's the 60 return period. Still a fan of the purple and the red beak...


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I hope that’s a poor photograph! I can’t believe the colour would be that flat in reality after all the hype.

Looks as flat as the pics earlier in this thread, and nothing like the renders.

@meinberg

If my experience of the Bel Canto Phoenix is anything to go by I'll advocate that 'The Red One' won't leap up and slap you around the chops. The dial in real life is not as vibrant as the CAD renders would have one believe.

If you have a look at my photos in the CW of the Day thread, you'll hopefully see what I mean;-

However, the dial has it's own softer charm and the galvanic works well in different lighting conditions.

Please keep an open mind.


Guy

Moneypit wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 4:21 pm Well here it is in the flesh on black.

It looks a flatter shade than the renders, less vibrant. Was hoping for more Burgundy. At least there's the 60 return period. Still a fan of the purple and the red beak...


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Doesn't wearing it and changing the strap void the 60/60?

Bahnstormer_vRS wrote: ↑Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:13 am @meinberg

If my experience of the Bel Canto Phoenix is anything to go by I'll advocate that 'The Red One' won't leap up and slap you around the chops. The dial in real life is not as vibrant as the CAD renders would have one believe.

If you have a look at my photos in the CW of the Day thread, you'll hopefully see what I mean;-

However, the dial has it's own softer charm and the galvanic works well in different lighting conditions.

Please keep an open mind.


Guy

They both look practically the same to me. When I first saw the above pictures in this thread I thought it might have been one of the older releases and not "The Red One". Hopefully it's just a bad picture but if it's accurate I doubt I'll keep it especially since the Classics were released and I have one of those on order too. I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they release a red Classic too.

Does it have the "brushed"* effect on the dial as per the picture below because it doesn't look like it from the pictures:

*I don't know if that's the correct term.